Spend a day in a public school and compare it to when we went to school. You'll get your answer.

Is IQ dependent on education?

JOG -

No, IQ isn't dependent on education, except for the testing methodology.

It's been shown over and over again that lack of education affects the test scores.  There is no real way to test for bare IQ, separate and apart from either verbal or numerical questions and answers.  When you can't read, or do basic math equivalent for a kid's age group, his IQ score will suffer, even if he has native intelligence.

Take a person who lives in a stone age culture and society, like aborigines or even American Indians 150 years ago - without verbal and math skills, there is no way to measure their IQs, even though we all know those populations have their bright folks, and the less bright, but we just can't test for it, due to their lack of what we know as education.

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 10/22/13 at 11:14:22:



Correct, & I know that. So, whats the deal? Our people are illiterate? To the point they cant comprehend the words in the questions of an IQ test?

If thats true, then everyone who hasnt listened to Charlotte Izerbyt's Deliberate Dumbing Down of America interviews really needs to,because it proves her point,

What I am about to say will insult a few, mainly teachers, but I think it's true.
Gender employment opportunity has worked to dumb down education.  Back in the 1950s, what two occupations were open to bright, educated women?  Teaching and nursing.  I recall want ads in the newspaper for Help Wanted Male, and Help Wanted Female into the early to mid 1970s.  The female jobs were sales clerks and clerical office workers.
Today, those same women who became teachers in the 50s and 60s can now be anything they want to be- doctors, engineers, dentists, accountants, business executives, etc.  So the less ambitious folks, or the ones who can't cut it in a college program for engineers and doctors become teachers.
Now, of course, there are many exceptions, but I think that general statement is valid.
And, with our PC culture, no one can really fail anymore.  Kids are passed from one grade to the next who should have repeated a grade, like they did in the 50s and 60s.
So, yes, we have dumbed down American education.

& thats exactly how youll see it till you step back & look at what was done in the schools. Iwatched it. I lived it. I saw good programs cut. My Weekly REader Kicked BUTT,, but they stopped it,,& they stopped it at the very same time they were telling the People
"We have problems in our schools. The solution is that WE be given more $$ & More Control over the system".. The government destroyed the schools by dictating the curriculum. Spend some time listening to her. She was the #2 person in DC. She saw what happened. She knows it was intentional,. just as we were intentionally saddled with huge debt & de-industrialized, WE are being destroyed, & we are not alone. The globalists are sinking Europe, too,

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/22/13 at 18:43:26:


Everyone excluding China?