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09/15/13 at 14:48:05
 
Wouldn't it be nice to fire Congress and let the people vote on home and library computers. We are no longer being represented by the crooks. The do not have our best interest at heart and they're no longer doing there job competently. We're tired of wars, money being passed under the table, limitless election funding, too much money being spent on the military, too much money given away and spent overseas and congress will not represent us.. For the seniors we could have 2 adults standing by at the library making sure their vote goes as intended.In the next 5 years most voting will be computers anyway so theres no need to get into hacking or computer fraud. The only way to get representation is for us to to represent ourselves. Plus the money saved keeping the low life lazy crooks up and their $150,000 a year retirement, their refusal to go on Obamacare.  Elect a think tank or appoint people highly recognized in their field and let us vote on their issues. Congress has the lowest approval rate in history. 99% of them are self serving crooks who only care about their Swiss bank accounts. They are no longer useful, 2 parties are no longer useful but great ideas by smart men and us approving or disapproving them is the answer. Make the President accountable for all the tax money spent and make it public knowledge. JFK said he hated secrets and I'm right there with him. That's true Democracy.
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Reply #1 - 09/15/13 at 16:37:47
 
We don't live in a democracy, we live in a republic.
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Reply #2 - 09/15/13 at 19:06:49
 
You're right, my bad but whatever you wanna call it its screwed up and needs fixing.
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Reply #3 - 09/16/13 at 08:17:43
 
While I applaud the idea... the machine is now self aware and would fight to maintain itself. I don't know that I would want to have to vote and each and every detail that came along, and I am not wholly convinced the representative idea is broke or wrong.. it is simply corrupt.

Ideas I have toyed with- make it illegal for the federal government to give money to ANY entity subordinate to the state. PERIOD. They could  give it to the state .. but could not dictate how the money was actually spent. This returns some power to the states, which in my opinion is where the government has been stealing the rights and liberties of the general population for 100 150 years.

Require no- affiliated parties to approve any function that includes government/corporate grouping. To me, MUCH of the corruption lies here. The Government is willing to hand over authority to monitor and govern - to the group that is subjected. So Wall Street runs the SEC. Bankers run the Fed, and insurance companies run Crop insurance. Here locally, the casinos run the gambling authority.

De-couple the government from active support of parties. Alternately, re-quire at lest a subset of regulation for those entities that present candidates. Make war chests illegal.

Reverse the trend for the federal government to take more and more rights from the states.  The only time I can EVER recall the federal government NOT taking more rights was the case for Eminent Domain. The fed tossed it back saying it was totally a state issue. A GREAT DAY for states rights.  ( though I hate what my state did with it)...



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Reply #4 - 09/16/13 at 17:38:15
 
I totally agree with you that the representative idea is corrupt and with no limit on poltical contributions its going to get worse. We can no longer trust Washington represenatives .to do whats best for us. The only way I think to get fair representation is to threaten to fire then and do it ourselves. No limit von political contributions and the Patriot Act are 2 of the worst plolitical things ever in my lifetime
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Reply #5 - 09/16/13 at 20:18:45
 
Awww, Come ON,, theyve been pretendingthey didnt know what their constituents wanted for decades.,I WATCHED them when I was 12 & 13..
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Reply #6 - 09/17/13 at 00:24:58
 
What really pisses me off are the wars. Congress and goverment have become total complacent and have no disregard for killing innocent people. You ask Americans what their #1 complaint is its always got to do with foreign affairs. Congress refuses to represent us, refuses to do their jobs and theres no consequences for them getting away with what they want to. All they worry about is voting along party lines, half the time they dont know what they're voting for. Its whatever the rest of the party is voting over They insist on stealing from the poor to try to.pay bills while all the time they're shipping our jobs overseas.They've become totally useless and are costing us too much money.
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Reply #7 - 09/17/13 at 07:05:42
 
& Doesnt that make ya wonder WHY?? Who is directing them? If theyreally wanna stay in office, wouldnt it be real easy? Wouldnt they just need to vote the way their people WANT them to vote? Theres more to it than voting party lines,, the party doesnt get them re elected,, so, why vote in a way that pisses off the folks back home?
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Reply #8 - 09/17/13 at 09:15:21
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/17/13 at 07:05:42:
& Doesnt that make ya wonder WHY?? Who is directing them? If theyreally wanna stay in office, wouldnt it be real easy? Wouldnt they just need to vote the way their people WANT them to vote? Theres more to it than voting party lines,, the party doesnt get them re elected,, so, why vote in a way that pisses off the folks back home?



Once one of these guys has served three or four terms, somebody in DC OWNS their a**. They all have skeletons in their closets that would wreck them. So they try to walk the line between pissing off the folks back home, and still accommodating whoever it is that's pulling their strings. Eventually they are all in the same boat, and they know it.
They can't even push their political opponents too hard. If they do somebody will let the cat out of the bag.
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Reply #9 - 09/17/13 at 09:21:38
 
Why do we vote for these crooks a second time?  And let the ones like Weinercaught red handed in the cookie jar or wherever it was at run again?
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Reply #10 - 09/17/13 at 10:04:28
 
Im not convinced we DO re-elect them,,yea,, they get to "serve" another term,, but DID they actually win?
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Reply #11 - 09/17/13 at 11:21:31
 
oldNslow wrote on 09/17/13 at 09:15:21:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/17/13 at 07:05:42:
& Doesnt that make ya wonder WHY?? Who is directing them? If theyreally wanna stay in office, wouldnt it be real easy? Wouldnt they just need to vote the way their people WANT them to vote? Theres more to it than voting party lines,, the party doesnt get them re elected,, so, why vote in a way that pisses off the folks back home?



Once one of these guys has served three or four terms, somebody in DC OWNS their a**. They all have skeletons in their closets that would wreck them. So they try to walk the line between pissing off the folks back home, and still accommodating whoever it is that's pulling their strings. Eventually they are all in the same boat, and they know it.
They can't even push their political opponents too hard. If they do somebody will let the cat out of the bag.



I totally.. 100% agree!!!!

My 11th grade teacher told me:

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely...

Everyone in DC is corrupt.. if they were not corrupt when they got there.. they were within months.

Ron Paul, when running for nomination was be-littled for not passing a single bill. He also was nearly always free to his constituent's.. why?? because he had said no to the power buyers so many times they just excluded him... from everything. So there you are... the power buyers have corrupted the system. You can send all the "good" politician you want ... but all will be turned... or made useless.
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Reply #12 - 09/17/13 at 19:18:17
 
BUt the masses dont THINK,, & things liike what I posted goes right over their heads.
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Reply #13 - 09/19/13 at 10:15:39
 
Jog I think a large % are complacent, as long as there's food on the table and they get to watch America's Got Talent, then get up tomorrow and do it again. That would be me if I had no children or grandchildren. I want a better, safer, warfree, better food, future for them. There's too many "I don't want to get involved now" . They just sat back quietly while we become a 3rd world country. Star and I have talked about the Civil War. My family fought to protect their home and family. They didn't have slaves and knew nothing about politics except what they heard at the local country store.Except for the slave part I'm afraid its going to happen again. The politics and news media we here are lies, wasting your time fooling with them. Conspiracy theorist know they're being lied to and are searching for the truth. Flag wavers make me puke. The greatest country in the world just killed thousands of innocent Iraqis. women and children. That's an accomplishment to be proud of.
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Reply #14 - 09/19/13 at 19:51:09
 
Flag wavers make me puke.

Amen
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