Just to clarify, I'm not in that club. I believe it was Assad. I'm not a conspiracist guy.

WebsterMark wrote on 09/01/13 at 11:16:37:


My bad. Sorry.

Jerry E. wrote:

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Correct as far as the inability to rule themselves goes. But protecting the strongmen hasn't worked out so well for the US either. I think our policy should be hands off as long as the violence stays inside their borders. Let them exterminate one another. The fewer muslims the better as far as I'm concerned.

As far as a military response to the chemical weapons in Syria - and I don't care who did it - it's nothing more than Obama trying to save face because he shot his mouth off and now looks like the narcissistic
girl thingy that he is if he doesn't do something.

There have been many thousands killed - I've seen estimates as high as seventy thousand- with weapons that are considered legitimate; bombs,bullets etc. since this started. That was apparently OK with Barack and his cronies. Now Assad(or the rebels, depending on what you chose to believe) kill a thousand or so with chemicals, and the US HAS TO DO SOMETHING.

Same old Bullsh*t all over again. We never learn.

What a joke to see the US on a moral high horse preaching to the world, when our war criminals play golf and enjoy their lives. The hypocrisy is so glaringly blatant. It's simply disgusting.

If we were willing to express the least amount of contrition, sorrow or regret for many our own deeds, acknowledgment that we sell more weapons on the world stage than another country, etc., just a small reality check, we might gain a modicum of credibility. Of course, admitting to anything, or apologizing for anything is red meat for the rightwing, who jump at any chance to portray Obama as "weak" or "un-American" Should that be determining our behavior? Of course not.

Without showing an ounce of contrition or humility we are not a credible voice. Let someone with cleaner hands make the case. No other of the 190 or so other countries support this military intervention.

The moral outrage seems to be promoted by those that will make profits from war. Dropping American bombs and missiles on funerals, weddings and first responders?? Where is the outrage??

Maybe we should take a good long look at how we treat our OWN war criminals, for a change.

Our own government lets Its own citizens die in hospital waiting rooms or in their beds at home because they don’t have healthcare. They’re not spending hundreds of billions of dollars intervening in foreign conflicts for humanitarian reasons.
 
The number of high-ranking people who claim our right to bomb anyone anywhere for any reason whatever is astoundingly dangerous for our self-interest. No one in the entire world except a few uninformed people in the US thinks bombing Syria is a good idea in the first place. But the hypocritical stance of the US on this is not lost on the average global citizen of the world.

Hell we use depleted uranium like it's going out of style, which most consider a chemical weapon.

It should be the responsibility of the UN to seek a solution. Of course Russia will no doubt seek to prevent meaningful solutions. A lot like we prevent any meaningful steps from occurring when Israel is called to task.

Japan's Fukushima reactors are leaking nuclear waste water into the Pacific. If we're so worried about people being affected by man-made toxins why aren't we turning our attention to something that can really have an effect on us?? What about the starving fly covered children of Somulia and other waring nations concern us…we could use that military money to provide food and medicine to help those children in a humanitarian effort.

Seems like if it doesn't involve oil and blowing up sh!t we're not interested!

Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/01/13 at 11:02:59:

And if we go there and blow the place to hell and kill thousands of innocent women and children, then leave they will still be incapable of ruling themselves. Happens everytime. We never learn from our past mistakes.

Midnightrider wrote on 09/01/13 at 12:58:04:


Not only that, does it not give proof to their claim against us as imperialist, and just more fodder to the teachings of the future generations? It must, and therefor the same old mindset of mass execution via OUR justified strike(s) only passes this turmoil into the future, with no chance at all for remedy     

In large part,.. the reason Obama is president is because of the last two wars...
He won't get us into another...
There will likely be some missile strikes to a few strategic weapons sites in Syria...  Enough to make Asshat not willing to use those chemical weapons again...  
Basically,.. a smack on the hand, to let him know that those actions won't be tolerated...

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Or not. Obama tossed the ball to congress 'cause he hopes they say no and get him off the hook. Or, in the event they agree to some sort of strike, and something goes wrong, he can spread the blame around instead of taking all the heat himself.

The real danger is that crap like this has a nasty way of getting out of control once it's started. Especially when the real reason that the POTUS decides to shoot missles at someplace is just so that the leaders of Russia and China won't think he's a wimp. You don't really think he gives a hoot about a few thousand dead Syrians do you?