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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Nice pics... 08/23/13 at 12:14:20 Couldn't resist.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Nice pics... Reply #1 - 08/25/13 at 06:05:39 Im still trying to grasp how it is somehow racist to ask for an ID to vote. If you dont have an ID, you cant even get IN a federal building,, is that racist?How is it a "Poll Tax" to get a FREE ID?
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Nice pics... Reply #2 - 08/25/13 at 08:43:39 No idea. I honestly gave up trying to figure out the whole liberal mindset a long time ago. I've been a Nazi since junior high or high school, if not longer.
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Reply #3 - 08/25/13 at 20:03:54

WD, if you don’t understand the liberal position / mindset, you are not a Nazi. I do not think by any stretch of the imagination that you are nor do you wish to be a Nazi.

And I don’t believe that your comics reflect the truth about liberals.

Once there was a time when liberals and conservatives respectfully agreed to disagree on many issues. There was respectful discourse on the issues and everyone considered the logic and reason of the others points of view.

That’s all gone now. You have hateful rightwing radio fostering hate, mistrust, and lies about the other side of issues. They represent the corporate interests of this country and not the interest of the people
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They imply that liberals are “gun grabbers”, that black welfare queens are bankrupting the country, etc. etc. all the while they are funding endless wars and military adventures that fill the pockets of the military industrial complex and rob the middle class / working class of a standard of living that every American who is willing to work hard for the American dream that he or she deserves and has earned.

No my friend you are not a Nazi, you are an American who loves his country, just as we liberals do.

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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Nice pics... Reply #4 - 08/25/13 at 21:39:12 Sturmbannfuhrer, American SS. Pretty sure I qualify as an actual Nazi.
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Reply #5 - 08/26/13 at 01:24:38

Just a couple of things, I have lived in Michigan and now I live in Arizona, neither state gives out "free" ID. The only people who don't have ID are poor people. Voter fraud does not exist, it's a myth. It flat out doesn't happen. Nobody goes to the polls to vote twice or vote if their not registered. Most people don't even vote. So, the only people affected by voter ID laws are poor people. I don't know how it's racist but it is definitely aimed at getting fewer poor folks to vote and poor people tend to vote for democrats.

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phatmanswingin wrote on 08/26/13 at 01:24:38:

Just a couple of things, I have lived in Michigan and now I live in Arizona, neither state gives out "free" ID. The only people who don't have ID are poor people. Voter fraud does not exist, it's a myth. It flat out doesn't happen. Nobody goes to the polls to vote twice or vote if their not registered. Most people don't even vote. So, the only people affected by voter ID laws are poor people. I don't know how it's racist but it is definitely aimed at getting fewer poor folks to vote and poor people tend to vote for democrats.

I agree with your logic.

so why aren't liberals passing free ID laws or making it a deduction on the 1040?

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phatmanswingin YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 27 Buckeye, AZ Gender:	Re: Nice pics... Reply #7 - 08/31/13 at 20:20:42 Well real poor people don't pay tax, so the deduction wouldn't help, as to giving out free ID, I have no idea. It should be free, though the dems might not be pushing for free ID's because all the states trying to push voter ID laws are repub run, so it would be kind of pointless.
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I agree that voter fraud is a myth. It may occasionally happen, but I don't believe it's happening in any quantity to swing any particular election.

That said, I agree that we should ask or ID. Just because it's not an issue now doesn't mean we wait around until it becomes an issue.

Here's what really grinds my gears.......
The same liberals, who cry that low income individuals are prevented from exercising their constitutional right to vote due to a nominal cost of a $30 ID; have absolutely ZERO problem with imposing HUNDREDS of dollars in costs for the same low income individuals to obtain permission to exercise their second amendment right to keep and bear arms. (Assuming that liberal state even allows them to exercise their right at all)

Sorry, that's just hypocritical.
Liberals are all about equality, so long as some folks are more equal than others.

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phatmanswingin wrote on 08/26/13 at 01:24:38:

Just a couple of things, I have lived in Michigan and now I live in Arizona, neither state gives out "free" ID. The only people who don't have ID are poor people. Voter fraud does not exist, it's a myth. It flat out doesn't happen. Nobody goes to the polls to vote twice or vote if their not registered. Most people don't even vote. So, the only people affected by voter ID laws are poor people. I don't know how it's racist but it is definitely aimed at getting fewer poor folks to vote and poor people tend to vote for democrats.

I beg to differ.... you are wrong.. and sadly .. very sadly I can prove it..

http://www.msnewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?s=12879815&

In MY state .. where I live... voter fraud is alive and well.

Just google "voter fraud mississippi" 302,000 results

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Quadra wrote on 09/01/13 at 22:28:06:

Here's what really grinds my gears.......
The same liberals, who cry that low income individuals are prevented from exercising their constitutional right to vote due to a nominal cost of a $30 ID; have absolutely ZERO problem with imposing HUNDREDS of dollars in costs for the same low income individuals to obtain permission to exercise their second amendment right to keep and bear arms. (Assuming that liberal state even allows them to exercise their right at all)

Sorry, that's just hypocritical.
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Quadra wrote on 09/01/13 at 22:28:06:

I agree that voter fraud is a myth. It may occasionally happen, but I don't believe it's happening in any quantity to swing any particular election.

That said, I agree that we should ask or ID. Just because it's not an issue now doesn't mean we wait around until it becomes an issue.

Here's what really grinds my gears.......
The same liberals, who cry that low income individuals are prevented from exercising their constitutional right to vote due to a nominal cost of a $30 ID; have absolutely ZERO problem with imposing HUNDREDS of dollars in costs for the same low income individuals to obtain permission to exercise their second amendment right to keep and bear arms. (Assuming that liberal state even allows them to exercise their right at all)

Sorry, that's just hypocritical.
Liberals are all about equality, so long as some folks are more equal than others.

It's not that your wrong, it's that it's 2 different issues.

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Pine wrote on 09/02/13 at 18:16:57:

phatmanswingin wrote on 08/26/13 at 01:24:38:

Just a couple of things, I have lived in Michigan and now I live in Arizona, neither state gives out "free" ID. The only people who don't have ID are poor people. Voter fraud does not exist, it's a myth. It flat out doesn't happen. Nobody goes to the polls to vote twice or vote if their not registered. Most people don't even vote. So, the only people affected by voter ID laws are poor people. I don't know how it's racist but it is definitely aimed at getting fewer poor folks to vote and poor people tend to vote for democrats.

I beg to differ.... you are wrong.. and sadly .. very sadly I can prove it..

http://www.msnewsnow.com/Global/story.asp?s=12879815&

In MY state .. where I live... voter fraud is alive and well.

Just google "voter fraud mississippi" 302,000 results

Gotcha, so of the 2,131,049 eligible voters in Mississippi in 2010, the article you posted sited 3 people committing voter fraud.

THREE!!!!! are you serious 3 F'ing people??? That's 00000140775%. I appreciate you proving my point that voter fraud is a myth, lol.

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Reply #13 - 09/04/13 at 20:37:45

"I have lived in Michigan and now I live in Arizona, neither state gives out "free" ID. The only people who don't have ID are poor people. Voter fraud does not exist, it's a myth. It flat out doesn't happen. Nobody goes to the polls to vote twice or vote if their not registered. Most people don't even vote. So, the only people affected by voter ID laws are poor people." Phat

What he said + 1000.

This voter fraud meme is just one more lie put out by the wingnuts to stir up the rubes.
BTW, welcome aboard Phat. Wink

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