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08/04/13 at 13:01:08
 
Hello, when I try and turn the motor over, the motorcycle will make some clicking noises from the the relay to the selenoid. It seems as though the selenoid is working however I do not get any power delivered to the starter motor. Any ideas?

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Reply #1 - 08/04/13 at 13:10:40
 
Battery fully charged?  That's usually what causes clicking and won't turn over.
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Reply #2 - 08/04/13 at 13:13:28
 
Yes, I actually bypassed all the ignition components with a wire to the starter, started no problem. the de-compression selenoid, does it have to be closed to start?
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Reply #3 - 08/04/13 at 13:16:59
 
I also messed around with the part under the seat attached to the rear fender. I do not know what that does, but when I messed around with that area it started to work.
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Reply #4 - 08/04/13 at 14:01:36
 
Starter solenoid. Almost never go bad on Savages, unlike several other Suzuki cruiser models... They can/do however get a bunch of crud built up on them that can short them to the fender mount. Usually spider related.

If the decompression relay goes bad, it can cause a lot of other electrical issues. Several circuits are directly connected or slaved into it.
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Reply #5 - 08/04/13 at 17:02:05
 
With a fully charged battery you were able to bypass the solenoid and start the bike. The clicking is the solenoid opening and closing rapidly due to insufficient voltage/amperage to keep the solenoid closed and complete the circuit to the starter. Assuming the solenoid is good......the most likely cause is corrosion either on the connections to the solenoid, battery and starter AND/OR corrosion creeping within the insulation on the battery cables to and from the solenoid, battery and starter. Either situation will make it impossible for the battery to deliver the necessary voltage & amperage through the solenoid and to the starter. Check your connections to make sure they are clean and corrosion free. Also check your cables for any telltale corrosion  (corroded copper wiring looks green) where copper conductor exits the insulation.
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Reply #6 - 08/04/13 at 19:31:53
 
The ground on the engine is sometimes the problem,
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Reply #7 - 08/04/13 at 21:08:21
 
the starter switch contacts get corroded as well, especially if itsits out in the elements all the time Wink
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Reply #8 - 08/05/13 at 07:02:49
 
Thanks for all the support. I measured the decompression selenoid clearance and when it is out, it is about a half inch away from being closed. Will this cause the motorcycle not to start? The manual states 3-5mm of play.
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Reply #9 - 08/05/13 at 07:22:21
 
No, it has nothing to do with the starter. The play just makes the valve to open less.
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Reply #10 - 08/05/13 at 13:47:50
 
okay, now I am really stumped. I cleaned the connections of the starter selenoid and the connections of the battery cables. It still makes the clicking noise. Where does the battery actually get grounded to the bike? maybe I have not grounded it properly.
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Reply #11 - 08/05/13 at 13:50:17
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/04/13 at 19:31:53:
The ground on the engine is sometimes the problem,

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Reply #12 - 08/05/13 at 14:14:43
 
ground is a wire to the back side of the engine case, by the oil level window.
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Reply #13 - 08/05/13 at 18:27:21
 
okay, so i checked the ohms on the starter selenoid, and have the proper amount of resistance in that selenoid. I checked the cable that leads to the starter, but when I removed it, I accidentally  touched the positive and turned the starter over. could it be the relay is not sending a signal to the selenoid?
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Reply #14 - 08/05/13 at 21:29:25
 
Could be,, youve got a V meter,,
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