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Reply #30 - 08/01/13 at 09:20:29
 
On Wednesday, September 12, the New Britain Common Council voted 13-0 to approve a city ordinance allowing individuals with a State Permit to Carry Pistols and Revolvers to carry concealed in that city.

Prior to Wednesday’s vote, New Britain was the only city in Connecticut requiring residents to carry their pistols and revolvers in plain sight.  This revised ordinance, currently awaiting Mayor Tim O’Brien’s expected signature, brings New Britain into alignment with the rest of Connecticut.

We thank the New Britain Common Council for approving this pro-gun reform, and we look forward to examining opportunities in the upcoming legislative session to further ensure firearm and ammunition laws are uniform throughout the state.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2012/9/connecticut-new-br...

Not even a year ago. I could carry concealed in CT but not in my own town. Start with that. Then "out of sight, out of mind" will keep you warm at night.


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Reply #31 - 08/01/13 at 09:29:39
 
Personally,.. I'm not in favor of that freedom...
Open carry,... and especially open carry of military assault rifles are not something I want see...
I know lots of people here disagree,.. but, hey,.. it's what I think...
I just don't feel freer with that right...
I don't want to have to ride a bus, with eyes constantly trained on this nut, and be tensed to pounce on his a$$ if he goes postal...
That ain't freedom... and you know, you'd all be doing the same thing on that bus...
If you wouldn't,... then, your carrying a gun for protection is a waste of time...
This is no way to live...
This is Afghanistan...
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Reply #32 - 08/01/13 at 10:39:15
 
I remember flying shortly after September 11. Seeing the young servicemen carrying M-16s in the airports was a bit unnerving. Even though they were on "my side" I'm not sure I liked it. On the other hand, if the sh!t hit the fan, I'm sure I would have been glad they were there. Of course, we're talking about trained military service people, not crazy civilians.

Still, this is not Afghanistan.  Last time I checked, we did not have multiple car bombs going off almost daily. If we did, I think I'd carry an at- 15 also.

My point about the dangers of bad neighborhoods needs to be made again. You and I have very little to fear on a typical day. If you think about the number of guns that me, you and midnight have, look at how few times they've been used in an assault?! Probably zero!

The vast, vast, percentage of gun owners are not to be feared.

Do you really think you're going to get shot walking down the streets of Tucson?
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Reply #33 - 08/01/13 at 10:49:31
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/01/13 at 10:39:15:
Do you really think you're going to get shot walking down the streets of Tucson?

Noop,... not day to day, that's why I feel no need to carry... but, that guy on that bus, would have my attention...
That's my point... he worries me much more than some gang banger on the street...

If I end up carrying in the future, it won't be to defend against criminals,.. it will be to check these gun nuts and psychos...
Nothing more dangerous than scared man with gun... the gang bangers aren't scared... They may shoot each other, but I'm no threat, and so I feel no danger...
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Reply #34 - 08/01/13 at 11:26:29
 
No, I'm missing your logic.  That's the discredited argument that right to carry laws result in more crime when they don't.

You are far more likely to be the victim of a gun crime by a gang banger than while sitting on a bus (or in a movie theater).
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Reply #35 - 08/01/13 at 12:04:33
 
This is a complex issue and have been really thinking this over before I posted anything. The roots of all this seem to be in the breakdown of society, which some would say is done on purpose but I am not going there. People like the guy on the bus feel the need to flex their civil rights, why, because they are threatened with infringement.

So, why the infringement? The social pressures that used to exit that keep people orderly have greatly waned. The nuts that go into the theater, schools and malls are not constrained any longer. Is it video games? Movies? Toxic Foods? Dwindling mental health options? People who used to intervene are not there for some reason.

Education has gone straight down the $hitter as the unions have taken over and blacks are warehoused in a state of perpetual poverty and moral decay. Hispanics are next on the list of those to be warehoused for the sake of getting votes. Violence is how they get by.

So the slippery slope has come full circle where we have stolen the futures of a population segment by providing a politically correct and equally worthless education, locked them onto a welfare plantation with no escape and when they act out with violence the ruling class puts limits on the rest of us instead.

Pander to Whites with Indulgences via redistribution
Pander to Hispanics with Amnesty
Pander to African Americans with obamaphones and "White" Zimmerman show trial

While unnerving, preventing the guy on the bus in Tucson from carrying an AR-15 to where ever he's going does not fix the real problem, or the source of the problem, which is the social and moral destruction of a class of people for political gain.
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Reply #36 - 08/01/13 at 12:59:14
 
Dane, that last post looks like a syllabus for a college course at Harvard....!
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Reply #37 - 08/01/13 at 13:50:46
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/01/13 at 12:59:14:
Dane, that last post looks like a syllabus for a college course at Harvard....!


Grin Grin I much appreciate the observation but I can assure you that Harvard would have very little interest in me  Grin

It's the Marxism, Socialism and Liberalism that is at the core of all this. The idea that the Constitution is a "living" document and how whatever Justice Ginsberg doesn't like is considered unconstitutional is at the core of all this.

But I would add that the guy on the bus isn't what makes us resemble Afganistan, it's the government corruption and cronyism that is decaying society into that which resembles Afganistan. Be very mindful of why they open carry machineguns and RPGs there, it's tribal and corrupt.
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Reply #38 - 08/01/13 at 14:09:34
 
What I have found fascinating is the kind of Transference or Projective Identification that the Left puts upon anyone who doesn't toe the line.

The left can't even debate anymore, they have totally lost the skill, and they instead jump strait to the racism card. But their policies are inherently racist whether it be predatory wellfare or affirmative action. Sri loves calling people Republicommunist, which in itself is completely ridiculous, which attaches his world view to those who oppose his ideas.

The left says Republicans want old people and sick people to die and then create Obamacare that will use death panels to control costs.

The Left says Romney is a tax cheat but the Rangels, Geithners and all the others cheat like crazy.

They say Republicans hate the poor but it is Republicans trying to reduce the burdens on business to get them hiring again.

Whose policies have kept the economy down? Kept minorities down?

The Left says that if even one child can be saved by stripping us of our gun rights then it is worht it. I ask why not restrict Abortion then? There's a way to save a lot of African Americans right there!!

The guy carrying the AR on the bus is WAY down stream from the source of his actions in society today. Corruption, pure and simple.
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Reply #39 - 08/05/13 at 13:09:32
 
Keep swinging,, Youre right.
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Reply #40 - 08/06/13 at 09:30:24
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/05/13 at 13:09:32:
Keep swinging,, Youre right.



Yup. Keep swinging far far far right ...

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