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Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail?
07/26/13 at 00:47:09

I don't mean to ruffle anyone's feather but does Suzuki do any kind of stress testing on their products? I mean I had a RM 125 that would jump out of second gear in mid air and after I bought it I heard that RM 125's had gear box issues, then I had a LT 500 Quad Racer that had Crank Bearngs that would spin in the boss' and found out that it was a design flaw now I have a Savage that wasn't jetted correctly from the factory, has a squeaking speed odometer, and has a whining final drive. Do the other manufacturers have these kind of issues too? I've only owned a few other bikes like a YZ 250, CR 125 and a Honda Nighthawk 750 and the only thing I ever had to do on them was typical maintenance.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28663 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #1 - 07/26/13 at 01:03:31 If you wanted perfect,... you shoulda' bought a Honda... We like pain... ...
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #2 - 07/26/13 at 07:00:27 In a nut shell, that would be putting it generously... Welcome to the wonderful world of the best AJS/Matchless/BSA mutant mutt hybrid thumper that England never made... I've had mine since 1998, they kind of grow on you.
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Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail?
Reply #3 - 07/26/13 at 07:41:47

Your accusations are all correct and right on the money. As the miles grow, you can add more to your list (we have already fixed all of them).

Nobody would buy this bike except for a couple of sterling points. It can be very cheap when bought used. It fits short legged people like a 250, it has excellent torque for pulling away from stop lights (or Hurleys) and when tweeked a bit it becomes a pocketful of WEEEE !!! to quote the little Geico pig with his head sticking out the window.

It is also very moddable, to the point you can Cinderella it into a bobber or a Ryca.

It is a hobby as well as transportation. We are its support group and fan club, so it isn't like a Yammie or a Honda in that aspect. You are not all alone out there.

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Reply #4 - 07/26/13 at 07:58:27

Well I loved all of my Suzuki's my RM was light and very quick and I could smoke most anything else on the track as long as i didn't crash, my LT 500 could out run every Banshee out there and I liked the fact I only paid $500.00 for my Savage it's a 1999 and only has 8,000 miles on it it's ugly as sin but it gets me to work everyday and aside from the known issues that I have fixed most of them it is very mechanically sound and a blast to ride.

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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #5 - 07/26/13 at 09:54:58 Just think of it as having "character".
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28663 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #6 - 07/26/13 at 09:58:59 I don't know if I just buy wrong,... but every car or bike I've ever owned, had it's weak points and design flaws... Show me the perfect bike,.. and I'll buy it...
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10667 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #7 - 07/26/13 at 11:05:22 I think of it as a "Hobby in Process". I am a chronic tinkerer, short legged, and a thumper fan, so it fits me well.
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savagebob Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 235	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #8 - 07/28/13 at 19:10:05 Maybe Suzuki deliberately cut corners with the bike design because they knew there was a market out there for bikes with 'character.' They probably scratched their heads trying to workout why British bikes had such a following despite being so crap. So they made a crap bike and look! Here we all are.
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #9 - 07/29/13 at 04:23:20 On the other hand, the two Suzuki bikes (for about 40,000 mi), and the one Suzuki car I have had (14 years and 90,000 mi), have been perfect.
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Reply #10 - 07/29/13 at 04:25:11

I have an 07' S40 and have had no issues with my bike whatsoever. It's an entry level bike and with that being said yes there are a few things I would like to have seen done differently but all in all for what it is it's a great bike! The only thing I'm surprised about is that Suzuki has been making it for so long and hasn't addressed the cam chain tensioner Huh

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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #11 - 07/29/13 at 06:03:46 Or the wrong size rear tire, wrong brand of tires, decompression solenoid relay that fills with water, CV carburetor, poor clearcoating on outer cases and switch boxes...
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10667 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #12 - 07/29/13 at 17:49:24 WD wrote on 07/29/13 at 06:03:46: Or the wrong size rear tire, wrong brand of tires, decompression solenoid relay that fills with water, CV carburetor, poor clearcoating on outer cases and switch boxes... So you can't think of anything wrong with it at all, eh ?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail? Reply #13 - 07/29/13 at 17:58:35 Im sure Zuki is just waitin to see if the bike is gonna be produced next year to solve these little issues.. YOu know how new models are.. always a few bugs,, Theyve only been makin these 20 years or so,, waddya want?
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Re: Does Suzuki just not pay attention to detail?
Reply #14 - 07/29/13 at 18:02:58

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The only thing I'm surprised about is that Suzuki has been making it for so long and hasn't addressed the cam chain tensioner

They probably don't expect anyone to keep one long enough for it to become an issue. Marketing folks likely told 'em that most people would buy a Savage, ride it for half a summer, sell it and buy a Harley. Grin

Once it becomes a USED bike there isn't any reason for Suzuki to give a hoot one way or the other.

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