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Reply #15 - 07/22/13 at 04:57:07
 
One wants to scream at all those outraged at the Zimmerman verdict: Where is your outrage over the collapse of the black family? Today's civil-rights leaders swat at mosquitoes like Zimmerman when they have gorillas on their back. Seventy-three percent of all black children are born without fathers married to their mothers. And you want to bring the nation to a standstill over George Zimmerman?

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Reply #16 - 07/22/13 at 07:21:15
 
White america complaining about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson is futile ... you should have thought about it before you enslaved their ancestors ...

Any case Zimmy is well schooled in the laws, zimmy gonna have injuries to prove that now ... and private big $$$ lawyers and being alive to tell "your story" always wins over being dead and care of the govt lawyer especially after the cops didn't collect no evidence and had treatment for zimmy before collection and to help it all, everything was washed away in the rain ...

After the cops let him go, how bad would it look if he got convicted later ... so cops cleaned out the evidence.

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Reply #17 - 07/22/13 at 08:27:37
 
srinath wrote on 07/22/13 at 07:21:15:
White america complaining about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson is futile ... you should have thought about it before you enslaved their ancestors ....


I believe it was the Muslims who enslaved them and then sold them to the Spaniards who brough them over here and sold some to the French and English colonists and keeping some for the Carribean. But why let facts get in the way of a good jab??? Carry-on...
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Reply #18 - 07/22/13 at 08:40:42
 
Doesnt matter. How you gonna justify the instigators of racial unrest of today by going back to events none of us had any control over?
Seriously? You can actually justify these race dividers of society by saying the whites shoulda thot of that 200 years ago? No wonder youre impossible to "debate", youre intellectually dishonest. You KNOW there is not one thing any of us had to do with slavery. They are working against peace. They work to divide society. They help KEEP what racial tension there is alive.. AAANNDD Its an Important JOB. W/O division in society, we become united. If America DID drop some of the division, we could easily take this country back.
The New Black Panthers? Gotta be CIA backed, or theyd be in jail for their actions at the polls & after offering $10,000.00 for zims capture, dead or alive.

Anyone who pulls a stunt like that would go to jail, unless theyre backed by some serious muscle.,
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Reply #19 - 07/22/13 at 11:17:31
 
Dane Allen wrote on 07/22/13 at 08:27:37:
srinath wrote on 07/22/13 at 07:21:15:
White america complaining about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson is futile ... you should have thought about it before you enslaved their ancestors ....


I believe it was the Muslims who enslaved them and then sold them to the Spaniards who brough them over here and sold some to the French and English colonists and keeping some for the Carribean. But why let facts get in the way of a good jab??? Carry-on...


The fact is without $$$ and at that time it was gold not US $, there was no way for the warlords to keep doing it, this has been discussed before ... The french and british cant do anything without slaves ... They should have said ... we dont care if its 12 blacks for 1 gold coin, we dont want it, we will work on our house ourselves, and we will not have black people in our country.

That was carried over to the US's heritage ...

Then the americans kicked the british out ...

But kept their worst habit.

Blaming the british and french settlers is all fine ... however these people are the same "founding fathers" of the country. You may have dropped in from a different country @ some later point ... much like me. However in your legacy and mine there is slavery where it pertains to my "american" life. That is just the way it is.

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Reply #20 - 07/22/13 at 11:29:47
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/22/13 at 08:40:42:
Doesnt matter. How you gonna justify the instigators of racial unrest of today by going back to events none of us had any control over?
Seriously? You can actually justify these race dividers of society by saying the whites shoulda thot of that 200 years ago? No wonder youre impossible to "debate", youre intellectually dishonest. You KNOW there is not one thing any of us had to do with slavery. They are working against peace. They work to divide society. They help KEEP what racial tension there is alive.. AAANNDD Its an Important JOB. W/O division in society, we become united. If America DID drop some of the division, we could easily take this country back.
The New Black Panthers? Gotta be CIA backed, or theyd be in jail for their actions at the polls & after offering $10,000.00 for zims capture, dead or alive.

Anyone who pulls a stunt like that would go to jail, unless theyre backed by some serious muscle.,


The reason Sharpton and Jackson have any traction is because they are talking to the rest of their blacks like "Look what the white man has done to us, and in continuing to do to us"

You dont understand it JOG and Dane, and I dont expect you to ... but India has been in the situation black america has been in. You have to make yourselves a concious effort to work past ... and every so often something will happen and remind us of it ...

India does not have an anti british sentiment by and large ... because the british left - there were none left in India after 1947.
However situations would suddenly come up, sometimes in sport, other wise in other political aspects that would suddenly bring up all the nationalistic fervor again ...

You really need to think of this in terms of the black people ... that's all I would say, and I am not surprised you cant.

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Reply #21 - 07/22/13 at 17:05:06
 
& Therin lies the problem, the society I know doesnt have a thing against blacks. I know I dont. People are people. If I am supposed to NOT like someone because they are a different color, then do I Hafta Like everyone who is the same color? Cuz I dont,, there are blacks I like & blacks I dont,, same with whites & every other color. If someone can tell me they believe they can tell someone is not worth knowing because their great great great grandparents came from Africa, then Ive found exactly one idiot not worth knowing,
Since the surgery Ive been hiring a guy to do the stuff Im sposed to be doin,, he is a black dude, rides a Harley, no cage, lives in a small trailer, single, about my age. He uses the N word.. & funny thing is, he uses it the same way I do. It applies to all races, its a type of person, not a race,

Im sure there are some racists out there. I think maybe my neighbor may be one, Im not sure, but when I told her she could hire the guy Im using & save a ton fixin stuff up, she didnt seem too excited, O well,, her loss,,

Heres the long & short of it,,
There are people who make a living, somehow, Al Notso Sharpton ? REally? How does he keep beans on the table? What about Jessee Jackson? Do they unite America? Or do they keep what division there is well defined & tangible? I see them as bad for America. YMMV..
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Reply #22 - 07/23/13 at 07:23:12
 
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are getting traction because there is a segment of the black population who do feel the way they do ...

That's all I am saying, there is things that unite (like 9/11 - Sorry the govt produced version of 9/11 etc), and ones that disunite (like this or the OJ trial) happening all the way around ... they just echo 1 sentiment.

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Reply #23 - 07/23/13 at 09:35:58
 
srinath wrote on 07/23/13 at 07:23:12:
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are getting traction because there is a segment of the black population who do feel the way they do ...

That's all I am saying, there is things that unite (like 9/11 - Sorry the govt produced version of 9/11 etc), and ones that disunite (like this or the OJ trial) happening all the way around ... they just echo 1 sentiment.

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Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are getting traction because there is a segment of the black population who do feel the way they do ...

& Im saying these guys make their Living keeping that sentiment alive.
& America would be better off without them doing what they do. I believe the segment of the population who follows them would benefit to not focus on the divisions in society. I dont have their experiences, dont know who has done what to them, what theyve been hurt by or limited by.
Maybe these feelings are 100% reasonable, I simply dont know, I just wish people would work at treating others reasonably & fairly & NOT racially making decisions about Who is worth knowing & who is trust worthy, etc.. There are small minds on both sides. We seriously need to grow up as a society. Zimmerman has exactly ZERO history of being racist, as you will soon see,, or, maybe its all just lies..
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Reply #24 - 07/23/13 at 10:20:15
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/23/13 at 09:35:58:
srinath wrote on 07/23/13 at 07:23:12:
Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are getting traction because there is a segment of the black population who do feel the way they do ...

That's all I am saying, there is things that unite (like 9/11 - Sorry the govt produced version of 9/11 etc), and ones that disunite (like this or the OJ trial) happening all the way around ... they just echo 1 sentiment.

Cool.
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Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are getting traction because there is a segment of the black population who do feel the way they do ...

& Im saying these guys make their Living keeping that sentiment alive.
& America would be better off without them doing what they do. I believe the segment of the population who follows them would benefit to not focus on the divisions in society. I dont have their experiences, dont know who has done what to them, what theyve been hurt by or limited by.
Maybe these feelings are 100% reasonable, I simply dont know, I just wish people would work at treating others reasonably & fairly & NOT racially making decisions about Who is worth knowing & who is trust worthy, etc.. There are small minds on both sides. We seriously need to grow up as a society. Zimmerman has exactly ZERO history of being racist, as you will soon see,, or, maybe its all just lies..


Yikes ... the same thing over and over and over again ...
The "feeling" cant be kept alive out of nothing ... in a few generations it may die out ... if the incidents like this dont keep on happening. I am sorry, people who do discrimination never find the problem ... the example of getting hit by an suv when on your bike is apt here ... "I never saw or felt a thing officer".

You may say he's not racist based on the evidence there still exists ... you dont know what was never collected, washed away and thrown away after being collected cos they let him go, and it had to be an acquittal else they look stupid.

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Reply #25 - 07/23/13 at 10:44:22
 
How about ya have a look at that other post, answer those questions & see then.
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