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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Bike starts but... 07/10/13 at 19:44:11 It idles weird and has trouble keeping alive while warming up. It lugs as if its coughing over and over again.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #1 - 07/10/13 at 19:56:46 mine idles low when first started, i jack the idle up, as it warms, idle rpm comes up, i turn it down,, notice, nothing but fingers needed to adjust idle. remember, keep it spinnin 1.000 rpm,, oil pressure,, What happens if you start blipping the throttle? Will it rap up or does it gag & die?
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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #2 - 07/10/13 at 20:11:17 It revs. But like how the crappity smack do I know when it's at 1000? And also why can't it just start normally without having to adjust the idle?
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clearush Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 261 Deer Park,TX Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #3 - 07/10/13 at 20:19:04 I always use the enrichment (choke) when starting my bike to keep the rpms up until it warms up. That way I don't have to mess with constantly adjusting the idle screw.
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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #4 - 07/10/13 at 20:21:11 I pull the choke all the way, start it, then push it in halfway, at that point the idle sounds like its about to stall every crank, but it keeps going.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #5 - 07/10/13 at 20:35:33 there are 2 knotches on the choke 1 knotch out richens it up a bit but speeds up the idle too. full out just makes it rich.
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Reply #6 - 07/10/13 at 20:39:20

well,, the warning is an important one, low rpm = low oil pressure = short life, if its chugging along below 1,000 rpm, ya gotta deal with that or youll scorch the cam journals in the head,
i piddle w/ idle adjustment ever time i fire up, takes about 20 minutes or so for it to get all the right. i dont mind, its my baby, ill keep it spinning free.

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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #7 - 07/10/13 at 20:41:41 verslagen1 wrote on 07/10/13 at 20:35:33: there are 2 knotches on the choke 1 knotch out richens it up a bit but speeds up the idle too. full out just makes it rich. Well on the first knotch out the idle sounds really irregular, and it's idling as if its dying, but it doesn't.
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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #8 - 07/10/13 at 20:45:10 Well it used to start fine, but I guess I started fiddling with the idle mixture screw to lessen the backfiring, and at first it ran ok but now it won't even idle normally on a cold start.
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Reply #9 - 07/10/13 at 20:50:41

if its acting differently & you havent done anything, id put some sea-foam thru it a few tanks worth,, if thats no help, id have a look in the carb.
have you ever had the bowl off?
how much do you ride?
how long does it sit?
have you tried putting it on prime to make sure the bowl is full?
how about draining the bowl to see if ya get anything besides gas?
how long does it take till it starts running like it should?
if it clears up, idk how its a junk in the carb problem, butm hey, im not the carb genius, either.

one of you smart guys mite wanna jump in here

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Reply #10 - 07/10/13 at 23:59:26

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/10/13 at 20:50:41:

if its acting differently & you havent done anything, id put some sea-foam thru it a few tanks worth,, if thats no help, id have a look in the carb.
have you ever had the bowl off?
how much do you ride?
how long does it sit?
have you tried putting it on prime to make sure the bowl is full?
how about draining the bowl to see if ya get anything besides gas?
how long does it take till it starts running like it should?
if it clears up, idk how its a junk in the carb problem, butm hey, im not the carb genius, either.

one of you smart guys mite wanna jump in here

Never had the bowl off.
I ride almost daily.
Don't have prime because I have the raptor petcock.
It runs ok once it's heated up. Still has a bit of uneven idle and it skips beats regularly while I'm waiting at a red. Meaning it'll be chugging along and have one chug not happen in a steady pattern.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #11 - 07/11/13 at 03:04:41 Meaning it'll be chugging along and have one chug not happen in a steady pattern. spark plugs can do that, mite wanna slap a fresh one in, i dunno,, raptor, good plan. hopefully, someone will stop in & rescue both of us soon.
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sesamestreet Full Member Offline Posts: 122 Mississauga Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #12 - 07/12/13 at 04:39:58 Used some seafoam spray in the carb and its a bit better. But still needs SOMETHING
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Reply #13 - 07/12/13 at 06:00:40

sesamestreet wrote on 07/12/13 at 04:39:58:

Used some seafoam spray in the carb and its a bit better. But still needs SOMETHING

If there is something in the idle circuit or pilot jet....spray Seafoam won't help. You need to use the kind you add to the fuel and it cleans while you ride.

You might also try turning the idle mixture screw out a couple of turns and then back in the same number of turns (while the engine is running) in case something got stuck in the passage at the needle.

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: Bike starts but... Reply #14 - 07/12/13 at 06:41:57 Quote: But like how the crappity smack do I know when it's at 1000? Start it up. Put it in first gear. take a ride down the street with the throttle completly closed. If it runs along at about 8-10 mph like that the idle is pretty close to 1000.
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