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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #15 - 07/08/13 at 15:40:58

verslagen1 wrote on 07/08/13 at 15:00:23:

Toroso wrote on 07/08/13 at 14:53:49:

Since my bike is approaching 20K miles. Would it be a good idea to replace the cam chain when I put the new tensioner on? Is that a job a noob could handle?

If you're replacing the stock tensioner (why?) you need a new chain instead.
If you're putting in a verslavy, then the chain will be ok for another 20k miles.

I do plan on the Verslavy, emailed you about it. Just was thinkun take care of it while I'm in there. I have no idea what shape the chain is in now.

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Reply #16 - 07/08/13 at 15:47:53

My 98 has a couple mm left. And the odometer/speedometer was deleted 8 years ago with between 15 and 16K miles showing...

Even if I get the electrical, engine repaint, finish painting the tins, fix the foot controls (shim floorboards, extend brake/shift arms), it is most likely staying parked until the get together at my place. When my Verslavy will get here (hopefully still with its inventor)...

Too hot to ride anyway. Like breathing soup... made out of road kill... Tipton County TN stinks (literally). Grin

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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #17 - 07/08/13 at 16:05:37

WD wrote on 07/08/13 at 15:47:53:

My 98 has a couple mm left. And the odometer/speedometer was deleted 8 years ago with between 15 and 16K miles showing...

Even if I get the electrical, engine repaint, finish painting the tins, fix the foot controls (shim floorboards, extend brake/shift arms), it is most likely staying parked until the get together at my place. When my Verslavy will get here (hopefully still with its inventor)...

Too hot to ride anyway. Like breathing soup... made out of road kill... Tipton County TN stinks (literally). Grin

Yer on the other end of TN from me. Stinks here too. Rain for 2 weeks straight then humidity, yuk.

I've been meaning to ask. My bike was sold as a 1999. But I don't a 99 in research. Goes from 98 to 2000. The sticker has 5/98 production date. So is it a 98?

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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #18 - 07/08/13 at 16:25:41

Toroso wrote on 07/08/13 at 16:05:37:

WD wrote on 07/08/13 at 15:47:53:

My 98 has a couple mm left. And the odometer/speedometer was deleted 8 years ago with between 15 and 16K miles showing...

Even if I get the electrical, engine repaint, finish painting the tins, fix the foot controls (shim floorboards, extend brake/shift arms), it is most likely staying parked until the get together at my place. When my Verslavy will get here (hopefully still with its inventor)...

Too hot to ride anyway. Like breathing soup... made out of road kill... Tipton County TN stinks (literally). Grin

Yer on the other end of TN from me. Stinks here too. Rain for 2 weeks straight then humidity, yuk.

I've been meaning to ask. My bike was sold as a 1999. But I don't a 99 in research. Goes from 98 to 2000. The sticker has 5/98 production date. So is it a 98?

Depends on the 10th digit of the VIN Wink

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1240553196

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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #20 - 07/08/13 at 16:35:27

verslagen1 wrote on 07/08/13 at 12:58:57:

clearush wrote on 07/08/13 at 12:15:40:

Dane Allen wrote on 07/08/13 at 11:52:27:

A keeper prevents the plunger from exiting the housing.

Since when?? the major design flaw in the Savage/S40 cam chain tensioner is there is no "keeper" to keep it together once it exceeds the 21mm max extention. Which is why its so essential to check the tensioner at 10K miles and ever so often afterwards and either change the tensioner for a Verslavy tensioner or replace your cam chain and followers.

Dane failed to say it, but he meant the verslavy has a keeper... and he has one Cool

that's a pretty big miss Huh

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87 savage Full Member Offline Gone riding! Posts: 249 Maine Gender:	Re: Cam chain tensioner questions Reply #21 - 07/08/13 at 16:52:06 Toroso wrote on 07/08/13 at 16:05:37: I've been meaning to ask. My bike was sold as a 1999. But I don't a 99 in research. Goes from 98 to 2000. The sticker has 5/98 production date. So is it a 98? Toroso, Here is some more info on the 1999 savage: http://www.cyclechaos.com/wiki/Suzuki_LS650#1999_LS650PX
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Toroso Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 120 Kingston, TN Gender:	Re: Cam chain tensioner questions Reply #22 - 07/09/13 at 06:13:03 I'm getting things together to do the Verslavy. Can someone tell me if this is the correct clutch cover gasket number? 11482-24B11 Tks
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam chain tensioner questions Reply #23 - 07/09/13 at 07:18:31 that's the right one
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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #24 - 07/09/13 at 08:30:00

You're going with a paper gasket? Huh

Gray Permatex is better, just use it sparingly... next time you feel like opening up the engine, the gunk stays on the outer case section, peels off with finger pressure instead of risking the sealing surface with a razor blade.

And you aren't supporting the factory's bad engineering... FTF!... yeah, I rode Harleys for too long... Grin

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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #25 - 07/09/13 at 09:08:11

WD wrote on 07/09/13 at 08:30:00:

You're going with a paper gasket? Huh

Gray Permatex is better, just use it sparingly... next time you feel like opening up the engine, the gunk stays on the outer case section, peels off with finger pressure instead of risking the sealing surface with a razor blade.

And you aren't supporting the factory's bad engineering... FTF!... yeah, I rode Harleys for too long... Grin

I'm new to all this, I don't know any better! Grin

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Re: Cam chain tensioner questions
Reply #27 - 07/09/13 at 10:30:00

Aw man, taking more of my fun away... Angry

I use Permatex because I like to take my toys apart, a lot. Except for the Savage engine.

I had a 1970 FL that took over 100 man hours of work to seal up tightly. Finally broke down and used Yamabond instead of the factory case gaskets. No more leaks.

Did a clutch job on the 1500 Intruder, replaced the factory gasket with grey goop based on Kawasaki forum recommendations, hasn't oozed a drop of oil out the case seam. Might work too well, now the cam caps leak. And the rear base gasket. And the stator wiring pass through port. And and and... Almost as bad as a nose cone Shovel or first gen Evo. Grin

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Toroso Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 120 Kingston, TN Gender:	Re: Cam chain tensioner questions Reply #28 - 07/09/13 at 10:33:12 Should I use the gasket as is? Or apply some sort of sealer?
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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Cam chain tensioner questions Reply #29 - 07/09/13 at 10:35:26 Have been working on motorcycles since 1958. I used to build Harleys from the crank shaft up. I have never had a problem getting a seal with a factory gasket. I would use the gasket as is. Although some use sealer on one side. It makes it harder to get the gasket off the next time.
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