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Re: Harley question
Reply #15 - 07/05/13 at 12:07:10

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I love flat track racing (as a spectator) I used to go to Louisville downs KY to watch the camel pro series every year. They only had a half mile track but it was exciting. Its a shame they don't race motorcycles at Louisville downs any more.

I used to go to Syracuse every summer when they raced there(mile).
Same thing. Stopped racing there quite a few years ago. Last time I was there Kenny Roberts - I'm shown' my age here-

took a few practice laps on a bike with the Yamaha roadrace engine of the time in it. Three cylinder two stroke. It was ungodly fast but he couldn't control it in the corners. Parked it and rode a Harley in the race. He won a race later that year on the Yamaha; I think at Indy, and the AMA promptly banned it. I heard that a few years ago he got it out and did a few demo laps on it at one of the nationals. Might have been Indy but I'm not sure. He was about 50-55 at the time. Turned in a couple of pretty fast laps dispite not having been on a mile track for years.

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Re: Harley question
Reply #18 - 07/05/13 at 13:27:12

I have no problem with the manufacturer or dealers of Harleys.....they got a market and brand recognition and use it to their benefit.

I have no problem with the bikes. They do what they do very well.

I would love to own one for a while - but it would be hard to choose one (and pay for one). They have a lot of options that look great.
(UPDATE........I would buy an XR750!)

I have no problem with guys that ride Harleys and understand that there are other bikes and other riders on the road. I have a friend with a big Harley and he will ride 600 miles in a day and does not think it is anything special. He rides with other riders on other brands, helps his neighbor with his Hayabusa drag bike.....and thinks my Savage is cool.

I do have a problem with the riders that believe a Harley is the only bike worth owning. The ones that just bought a bike last year, and suddenly they are the coolest thing on the road. The ones that rip off the muffers and put on straight pipes! The ones that leave their blinker on for 5 miles (Wait......I do that!).

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Re: Harley question
Reply #19 - 07/05/13 at 13:45:51

oldNslow wrote on 07/05/13 at 12:07:10:

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I love flat track racing (as a spectator) I used to go to Louisville downs KY to watch the camel pro series every year. They only had a half mile track but it was exciting. Its a shame they don't race motorcycles at Louisville downs any more.

I used to go to Syracuse every summer when they raced there(mile).
Same thing. Stopped racing there quite a few years ago. Last time I was there Kenny Roberts - I'm shown' my age here-

took a few practice laps on a bike with the Yamaha roadrace engine of the time in it. Three cylinder two stroke. It was ungodly fast but he couldn't control it in the corners. Parked it and rode a Harley in the race. He won a race later that year on the Yamaha; I think at Indy, and the AMA promptly banned it. I heard that a few years ago he got it out and did a few demo laps on it at one of the nationals. Might have been Indy but I'm not sure. He was about 50-55 at the time. Turned in a couple of pretty fast laps dispite not having been on a mile track for years.

My BIL used to race enduro, flat track and speedway in the '70s. He had a Ducatti 250 speedway bike, and a Harley 360 flat track.
He usually placed in the top 3 when he raced.
He lost it in a corner on the Harley and went into a wall, causing lifelong damage to his back and left shoulder. He checked himself out of the hospital after 2 days,(probably causing the lifelong issues), fixed the bike and raced the next weekend. He won, and never (legally) raced anything again.
He can't even ride a bike anymore.

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Re: Harley question
Reply #20 - 07/05/13 at 16:36:45

I think serowbot hit the nail on the head. Over here (aus) so many Harleys are owned by new riders who just buy into an image and straight away get the "attitude" and even owning a Harley T shirt seems to make people feel qualified to run down all the other brands. As bikes they're ok, nothing special but the Hype is overrated. Harleys in Oz are way overpriced, too. Lots of "real" riders are importing low mileage current models at around half the price of a newie from the showroom. I like rounding up the big twins in the hills on my little DR250. V-Rods are cool, IMO.
Buying a lifestyle is just a bit lame.

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Re: Harley question
Reply #21 - 07/05/13 at 19:50:22

I am a former Savage owner. I put over 50,000 miles on the machine below. I loved it, was aware of all its strengths, and weaknesses, and was sad when it finally died.

Currently, I ride the 2011 HD 883 Extra Low pictured below. I have a little over 10,000 miles on it so far, including a 2600 mile trip that I just made through California.

I am a little taken aback at the things I read about the 883 on this site. They certainly do not have any foundation in my own riding experience. I have always thought that there were a lot of similarities between the Savage and the 883. In thinking about the bike, I was wondering what not to like:

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Re: Harley question
Reply #22 - 07/05/13 at 22:17:53

apache snow-FSO wrote on 07/05/13 at 11:11:43:

I love flat track racing (as a spectator) I used to go to Louisville downs KY to watch the camel pro series every year. They only had a half mile track but it was exciting. Its a shame they don't race motorcycles at Louisville downs any more.

They had speedway racing close to where I live in the 70s-80s. I always liked that as well.

I miss the "Downs" too. I only live an hour away and loved that race party!

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Re: Harley question
Reply #23 - 07/06/13 at 00:33:15

Its all in the type of folks you ride with I think.... I see it on all sides... folks just like what they like. I've ridden quite a few different makes and models (from 73' up) and each has there pro's and con's.
Its what I want or like that makes a difference to me, what do I care what joe blo says about what I ride? I ride....thats all that matters to me.
Does make you wonder why folks think they way they do...I guess its just the competitiveness in each of us.
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My signiture tells ya what my current garage is holding....and it will change soon...the harley and honda are going...sigh.... change is good no?....

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Re: Harley question
Reply #24 - 07/06/13 at 06:59:51

gerald.hughes wrote:

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I am a little taken aback at the things I read about the 883 on this site. They certainly do not have any foundation in my own riding experience. I have always thought that there were a lot of similarities between the Savage and the 883. In thinking about the bike, I was wondering what not to like:

I agree. One of the reasons I was attracted to the Savage was how much it reminded me of the Sportster that I just couldn't afford. For two thousand bucks my 2006 S40 was as close as I could could get.

That's a really nice looking bike BTW.

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Re: Harley question
Reply #25 - 07/06/13 at 08:31:06

Hay Generalhuges

Tell me about that seat. That looks like my "Other" bike (07) but I have a two-up seat (SunDowner). Can you add a rear seat to it ? If so do the seat fasten together or is the back seat a clip and pin type ?

The sundowner is "Hard as a rock" and the rear is way-to-narrow .

I think I'll just keep them both till the Sportster gets "too" heavy for me , if it last that long .

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Re: Harley question
Reply #27 - 07/06/13 at 09:23:19

oldNslow wrote on 07/06/13 at 06:59:51:

gerald.hughes wrote:

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I am a little taken aback at the things I read about the 883 on this site. They certainly do not have any foundation in my own riding experience. I have always thought that there were a lot of similarities between the Savage and the 883. In thinking about the bike, I was wondering what not to like:

I agree. One of the reasons I was attracted to the Savage was how much it reminded me of the Sportster that I just couldn't afford. For two thousand bucks my 2006 S40 was as close as I could could get.

That's a really nice looking bike BTW.

yep my next bike will be either a 883 sportster or triumph ( if I can find one)

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