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07/04/13 at 12:00:22

What was it you wanted me to read. I have an open mind and I don't disagree with everything you say if you would just realize name calling is immature. I'll be glad the read your book or video. I read books Mick wanted me to read on atheism, I try to keep an open mind and I realize neither party is right. I beginning to feel the same way you feel about Obama.He's wanting to give enemies guns. The Ben Gazhi massacre was nothing but a cover up. I'll be glad when his term is over. We need a president we can trust and admire.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: For Web Reply #1 - 07/04/13 at 22:11:48 We need a president we can trust and admire. true,,, & this one will never be & unless someone really unexpected shows up, we wont next time. id vote for jessee ventura
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: For Web Reply #2 - 07/04/13 at 22:39:03 Tell me you're kidding. That screwball "documentary/truth" type show he had pretty much wrecked his credibility. You been raiding the Lortabs and washing them down with Corona when somebody wasn't watching? No, wait, that's me (but PBR, I hate Corona), back, both shoulders and a knee are tearing me a new one tonight...
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Reply #3 - 07/04/13 at 22:47:21

no, man, im serious,, no way on earth he would screw the people the way weve been gettin screwed. he would follow the big c a lot closer, bet on it. we would see positive change, he would at least TRY.. all weve had for decades is liar after liar,, i believe he genuinely loves america & would do a lot better job than anyone like Rand Paul..i dont trust that guy, not one little bit.

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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12854 Gender:	Re: For Web Reply #4 - 07/05/13 at 10:55:55 Jessie the mind....... Midnight, pentagon building performance report. http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/pentagon/official/asce_pentagon.pdf
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WebsterMark Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 12854 Gender:	Re: For Web Reply #5 - 07/05/13 at 11:16:42 Jessie the mind....... Midnight, pentagon building performance report. http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/pentagon/official/asce_pentagon.pdf
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Reply #6 - 07/05/13 at 13:47:32

I read it, a lot of it was engineering stuff that I woudnt begin to know how to disagee with. I own a flight simulator . I've got around 300 hrs of flight time counting hang gliders. I did good with the flight simulator until I got to the airliners. This flight simulator is no toy. The hrs I acumulate on it count go on getting my private license. It uses Google Map, even the factory I use to work at is on it. 2400 airports all over the world are on it. I flew a Cessna 150 over 100 hrs. There's no way I could fly a Jetliner without a year or so of training. Those buildings fell inside them selves just like a professional detonation. The biggest fact I know is jet fuel burns at 2800 degrees and steel melts at 3500 degrees. The guy that owned building 7 admitted on TV to get insurance 2 or 3 months before 911. Those planes were probably flew on the ground. Their instructor said they couldn't fly a paper airplane. I cant argue withal the engineers in your report. If that's your opinion I'm open minded enough to listen, but I just don't agree with all of it. I value every ones opinion on the forum even if I disagree. I'm sure a lot of people disagree with mine but the great thing about it all is we have the right to speak whats on our minds. You talk and I'll listen.

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: For Web Reply #7 - 07/05/13 at 13:51:34 Jog what makes you not like Rand Paul.
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Reply #8 - 07/05/13 at 14:11:10

Midnightrider wrote on 07/05/13 at 13:47:32:

...The biggest fact I know is jet fuel burns at 2800 degrees and steel melts at 3500 degrees.

Will read it soon when I get time but wanted to address this point real quick. Structural steel loses 50% of it's room temperature strength at between 800 and 1100 degrees, a lot of variability depending on grade and such. Ok, that's all.

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: For Web Reply #9 - 07/05/13 at 15:05:30 I'm pretty sure the firemen reported molten steel, if I'm wrong correct me.
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Reply #10 - 07/05/13 at 16:18:26

Midnightrider wrote on 07/05/13 at 15:05:30:

I'm pretty sure the firemen reported molten steel, if I'm wrong correct me.

Oh, I'm sure after all that time burning something would eventually melt. So many possibilities for air flow to create blast furnace conditions. Just saying that steel, and most metals, get progressively weaker as they heat up and long before the melting point.

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Reply #11 - 07/06/13 at 05:01:31

There is zero proof of molten steel. There were one or two fireman who have said afterwards they saw molten steel. Now, if you, star, jog and rat discount hundreds of people who saw an airliner fly directly into the pentagon, but believe without question someone who says they saw molten steel, well you're gonna have to explain that logic to me. How many people have actually seen molten steel? Was it just a liquid burning? Where's a photo.....
Midnight, let it go. The steel got weak as Dane pointed out from the heat and collapsed. There were no bombs set, the buildings didn't fall at free-fall speeds, none of that happened.yes, I guarantee you could fly a jet into a building if you wanted. No ones asking you to land it. Could you steer it? Yes. Can you descend? Yes. That's all you needed. Besides, instead of listening to what everybody tells you, why don't you read up on the flying training the hijacking pilots took and then tell me there's no way they could do it. .....

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: For Web Reply #12 - 07/06/13 at 05:21:44 Midnightrider wrote on 07/05/13 at 13:51:34: Jog what makes you not like Rand Paul. i cant put my finger on it,, i just dont trust the guy,, he may be the greatest man alive, idk,, but something just isnt sitting well with me,,
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Reply #13 - 07/06/13 at 08:35:13

WebsterMark wrote on 07/06/13 at 05:01:31:

Now, if you, star, jog and rat discount hundreds of people who saw an airliner fly directly into the pentagon,

I addressed this here:
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1369918631/225

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So WebsterMark, tell me, why do you resort to distortions so often?

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Reply #14 - 07/06/13 at 08:38:56

WebsterMark wrote on 07/06/13 at 05:01:31:

How many people have actually seen molten steel? Was it just a liquid burning? Where's a photo.....

……….and zero proof of molten steel? Here it is………….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw4_-4xGuHA
http://www.wanttoknow.nl/wp-content/uploads/WTC_Molten_Steel_Collage_400.jpg
http://censored.strategicbrains.com/Graphics/MoltenMetalSmokingGun/SpillingSt...
http://willyloman.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/molten_steel.jpg
http://investigate911.org/Fires-burned-and-molten-steel-flowed-in-the-pile-of...
http://files.myopera.com/cliffordanthonypaiva/blog/2Molten%20Steel%20Satellit...
http://911review.com/errors/wtc/molten.html

So now it is you WebsterMark that is disputing eyewitnesses:
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/moltensteel.html

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