SuzukiSavage.com - Had the Savage dyno'd today

paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #15 - 06/10/13 at 23:50:19 Jiggyfly wrote on 06/10/13 at 23:25:36: thirty one horsepower?! Holy crap. I had a 138cc air-cooled single that made 19! I know sad eh. embarrassing really.
Back to top	IP Logged

paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #16 - 06/10/13 at 23:52:27 But I am convinced that the Savage engine is a diamond in the rough. Will never be a crown jewel but can be polished up to shine.
Back to top	IP Logged

Jiggyfly Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 144	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #17 - 06/11/13 at 01:07:28 I dunno how much of a "gem" it is......but I need one! LOL
Back to top	IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #18 - 06/11/13 at 02:19:20 When I was about 16 I saw a hot rod magazine that had an article in it about a lawnmower motor someone had hopped up. Started with a 3.5 horse & massaged it into a 30 HP lump. ( Thats IF I remember 42 years ago as well as I think I do. It was memorable because it was so amazing)
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

Jiggyfly

Full Member

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 144

Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today
Reply #19 - 06/11/13 at 07:32:39

I doubt it was 30hp, unless it had some variety of forced induction.....

If so, then more is possible out of a savage engine......as it is a glorified lawn mower engine.

The max hp per displacement theory suggests that 65hp is possible. (100hp per 1000cc)....but this rule is blown out of the water with modern technology & high rpm motors......
None-the-less......31 hp is a low number.
Alas, remember, that every dyno is different.
A gsxr 1000 might only make 125 hp on that one,?& it's a suggectibe number that should be used to measure performance changes.
I.e- make an exhaust or ignition change & now if produces 34 hp, you know it was a positive change.
That same bike might make 55hp on a dyno in Iowa.
It's just a number. (but a low one!!!!! LOL) Tongue

Back to top

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2

Serious Thumper

Offline

What happened?

Posts: 55279
East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.

Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today
Reply #20 - 06/11/13 at 08:05:19

Well,, 30 HP Is a lot & I dont think it had more than a fancy rod & high comp piston & head & valve work. And, lets not forget,, Odds are, way back then, it was a flathead design.I just remember seeing a HP number on what Had been a 3.5 HP lawnmower motor & going Wow! I gotta check that OUT! I Thot it was 30,, but, w/o a blower or nitrous & a stopwatch, to keep up with how Long it survived putting that kinda power out,, well,, who knows? Ehh?

Back to top

The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke.

IP Logged

Bubba Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 956 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #21 - 06/11/13 at 08:05:23 paulmarshall...when ya gonna get your 97mm piston dyno'd? It would be cool to see what you gained...then get the new carb...see what you gained...then get the performance cam...see what you gained...you get the idea.
Back to top	'06 lt Blue, Dyna Power pipe, air screw 2 1/4 turns, 52.5 pilot w/ bleed holes, 150 Main, 2/3 spacer, Pirelli MT66 tires, Raptor petcock, 412-4006 Progressive shocks IP Logged

Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28625 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #22 - 06/11/13 at 09:12:38 Big why?... ... a basset hound ain't gonna' be a sled dog no matter what you feed it... ...
Back to top	Ludicrous Speed !... ... ... IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #23 - 06/11/13 at 09:14:52 a basset hound ain't gonna' be a sled dog no matter what you feed it... Now thats some down home, COUNtry wisdom!
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

Bubba Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 956 Denver, CO Gender:	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #24 - 06/11/13 at 09:47:17 I suppose out of curiosity...but , of course, it's not my money either...
Back to top	'06 lt Blue, Dyna Power pipe, air screw 2 1/4 turns, 52.5 pilot w/ bleed holes, 150 Main, 2/3 spacer, Pirelli MT66 tires, Raptor petcock, 412-4006 Progressive shocks IP Logged

Jiggyfly Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 144	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #25 - 06/11/13 at 11:26:07 But that's what men do, & what motorcycles are for...... To waste piles upon piles of money turning Bassett hounds into sled dogs....
Back to top	IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #26 - 06/11/13 at 11:42:51 Jiggyfly wrote on 06/11/13 at 11:26:07: But that's what men do, & what motorcycles are for...... To waste piles upon piles of money turning Bassett hounds into sled dogs.... To waste piles upon piles of money trying to turn Bassett hounds into sled dogs. There,, fixed it for ya.
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged

paulmarshall

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 1268
Carterton,New Zealand
Gender: male

Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today
Reply #27 - 06/11/13 at 13:53:21

Bubba wrote on 06/11/13 at 08:05:23:

paulmarshall...when ya gonna get your 97mm piston dyno'd? It would be cool to see what you gained...then get the new carb...see what you gained...then get the performance cam...see what you gained...you get the idea.

Yes Bubba thats exactly what I plan to do as soon as I break her in. Not clocking up a lot at the moment due to poor weather.
How does the Dyno work? Do they need to rev the daylights out of our bikes to get accurate readings? If so I want to wait till I have done a 1000km.Open for suggestions.
My next upgrade will be a Flat slide carb and Dyno it again.
I am happy to be a Guinea Pig by doing the upgrades and running the tests and getting numbers on paper.

Back to top

IP Logged

Bubba

Serious Thumper

Offline

SuzukiSavage.com
Rocks!

Posts: 956
Denver, CO
Gender: male

Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today
Reply #28 - 06/11/13 at 14:02:08

Yea! I'm not sure how the dyno's work and if they red-line them to see whatcha' got...
I was on the verge of going all in last year with Lancers performance package...Cam, Jug, Carb...but second guessed myself because I wasn't sure of the performance gains...
That, and the suspension upgrades, clutch upgrades etc...not to mention the rider upgrades... Grin

Back to top

'06 lt Blue, Dyna Power pipe, air screw 2 1/4 turns, 52.5 pilot w/ bleed holes, 150 Main, 2/3 spacer, Pirelli MT66 tires, Raptor petcock, 412-4006 Progressive shocks

IP Logged

justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Had the Savage dyno'd today Reply #29 - 06/11/13 at 14:07:17 I dont think anyone has shown a need to upgrade the clutch to "hang on" to the max this engine can put out. What we have seen, however, is a few busted clutch throwouts,, & That, Muh Friend, can be a Dead Engine event.. So,, I dont suggest stouter springs or shimmed springs unless the clutch simply can handle the power.,
Back to top	The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion.- Edmund Burke. IP Logged