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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Oil Cooler 06/06/13 at 14:52:00 Has anyone fitted a oil cooler to a Savage? http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=tech;action=display;num=1151246239
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #1 - 06/06/13 at 15:17:05 I've finally collected all the parts to put it together. Now I'm watching my temps and waiting. http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1361141824
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #2 - 06/06/13 at 15:22:35 So you have one up and running now ? I am mad enough to take up the challenge too. Before I venture into another hair brain scheme I want to gather info. Radiator size. Where to mount Radiator. Is there enough oil pressure to pump through a Radiator. etc etc etc
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Reply #3 - 06/06/13 at 15:38:54

Head temps currently only bordering on 300°F at the head bolt next to sparky.
Oil temp measured at front pressure tap has hit 218°F
And air temps have only broken 100°F a few times... in the afternoon. ('bot you're screwed) Grin

the banjo fitting for the M14 is a b!tch to find.
FN odd ball size. finally found one off a triumph Grin

The M12 is easy, off a subaru.
Oil cooler is from a SV650.
Intending to mount it between the front pegs. More or less neutral to oil level.

Because the ports are dead headed on the oil path, initially I don't intend to block the transfer port and depend on incipant flow. But I may reduce that port to get more flow thru the cooler.

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Reply #4 - 06/06/13 at 15:41:02

Heres a really small one. These types can also be picked up in junk yards as they were used to cool power steering pumps on autos.

http://www.jpcycles.com/product/740-502?utm_source=PLAs&utm_medium=cpc&utm_te...

This one is a little larger. I actually had one like this on a Harley pan head.

http://compare.ebay.com/like/140976557119?var=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&...

Lots more ideas.

http://www.google.com/search?q=suzuki+oil+cooler&sa=X&rlz=1T4GZAG_enUS439US44...

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Reply #5 - 06/06/13 at 15:52:33

Yes yes yes
You guys are great.

I have a sneaky feeling I'm gonna need something particularly as I will be running hotter than most with the 97mm.
Even tho days here are sunny, the temp is cooler due to our winter.This is helping keep the engine temp down, Plus I am taking it easy while I run it in. But next summer is going to be a different storey.
Any advice is welcome.

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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #6 - 06/06/13 at 16:35:54 Paul the JP cycles one would be $NZ 50-55 depending on pay pals crap exchange rate, plus freight.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #7 - 06/06/13 at 16:52:37 A cooler is a Win/Win. You gain volume and it stays cooler.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #8 - 06/06/13 at 17:00:38 Get a couple of these... then you'll know what your temps are. Put one on a head bolt, or sparky is an alternate, but a little harder to do, as you need to do a little machining to clear a little space for it. M14 and put another on the front oil pressure port. M12
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Re: Oil Cooler
Reply #9 - 06/06/13 at 17:44:19

verslagen1 wrote on 06/06/13 at 17:00:38:

Get a couple of these...
http://www.trailtech.net/media/press_releases/tto/72-ET1_sensor_w340.jpg
then you'll know what your temps are.

Put one on a head bolt, or sparky is an alternate, but a little harder to do, as you need to do a little machining to clear a little space for it. M14

and put another on the front oil pressure port. M12

Yes they are good I have something similar.

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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #10 - 06/06/13 at 17:50:07 jcstokes wrote on 06/06/13 at 16:35:54: Paul the JP cycles one would be $NZ 50-55 depending on pay pals crap exchange rate, plus freight. There is a lot to choose from on that site. They have even got oil cooler floor boards.
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Reply #11 - 06/07/13 at 14:05:35

If any of you do decide to mount an oil cooler - I think it would be wise to have a thermostat or manual valve to control the flow through the cooler. As the oil is cooled it becomes thicker and harder to pump, and at some point if you are riding in cold weather you don't want your oil to be that cold. There will be some flow restriction added from the extra length of tubing and surface area of the cooler, and this friction loss could be significant if the temperature is really cold. This would not be an issue if you install the cooler as a "bypass" cooler - but could be if it was installed as a full flow cooler.

The amount of supplemental cooling you need at 70 mph and 90 degrees is much different than at 50 mph and 50 degrees, and the oil cooler system should be designed to know the difference. Most factory installed oil coolers are regulated by a thermostat.

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Re: Oil Cooler
Reply #12 - 06/07/13 at 14:35:30

Dave wrote on 06/07/13 at 14:05:35:

If any of you do decide to mount an oil cooler - I think it would be wise to have a thermostat or manual valve to control the flow through the cooler. As the oil is cooled it becomes thicker and harder to pump, and at some point if you are riding in cold weather you don't want your oil to be that cold. There will be some flow restriction added from the extra length of tubing and surface area of the cooler, and this friction loss could be significant if the temperature is really cold. This would not be an issue if you install the cooler as a "bypass" cooler - but could be if it was installed as a full flow cooler.

The amount of supplemental cooling you need at 70 mph and 90 degrees is much different than at 50 mph and 50 degrees, and the oil cooler system should be designed to know the difference. Most factory installed oil coolers are regulated by a thermostat.

A good valid point.
Some sort of manual gate valve at a bare minimum. Or a thermostat with a electronic shut off valve.
Dave do you think this is necessary in areas that have a mild climate? Because I was going to set up a continues flow.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #13 - 06/07/13 at 17:04:14 Thats a very good point,,
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Gentlemanjim Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 61	Re: Oil Cooler Reply #14 - 06/15/13 at 00:41:05 So how is the plumbing connected for the cooler?
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