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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #30 - 05/28/13 at 18:58:00 Arnold wrote on 05/28/13 at 05:02:00: I'm back on the road but, how do you guys prevent the battery from moving from side to side inside the battery box?.... Since it has a sealed battery in there, I'd put some open cell foam rubber in the box to keep the battery from bouncing around.
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Reply #31 - 05/28/13 at 19:01:08

arteacher wrote on 05/28/13 at 07:27:57:

Arnold wrote on 05/15/13 at 06:27:08:

Man, I remember as a kid on a dirt bike, throttle cable broke in the sleeve, stuck at full throttle. So here I am stuck on a dirt bike going full speed with no way to turn it off, no battery, no key, no kill switch. Had to pull the spark plug wire, man what a shock you get from there...

When I met my wife she had a Suzuki 50 step through, a 2-cycle single. Her younger brother was racing go-karts on fuel (methanol+ klotz + nitro). One day he borrowed the bike, which had no gas in it so he put fuel in it, and went to the store for something. He did not tell my wife he had done this and she picked me up after work on a real hot day.
She mentioned it was not running right and that she had to keep it reved up or it would stall. Figuring that she was burning out the centrifugal clutch by doing that, I took over the driving, intending to put it out of gear and keeping the revs up. I stopped at a light, put it in neutral, gave it a little gas, and it went up to max RPM, just screaming.
I turned the key off and it kept screaming away. I pulled the plug wire and got a hell of a jolt and burning my fingers, and it kept screaming, starting to make self destructive noises. It then occurred to me that it was deaseling, and I pushed it, still screaming, into a gas station. I asked for a plug wrench, but the stupid mechanic would not lend out his tools. The bike is still screaming away, and has gathered a small crowd of mechanics and passers buy.("Man, I haven't smelled that since I went to the drags!") The mechanic finally pulls the plug and the bike stops.
He puts the plug back in (cross threaded) and I push it the 5 blocks to her place.
Her dad fixed it. (major bore out, new piston, push rod, rings, head, and clutch)
We drove it for 2 years after that.
She got her (unintentional) revenge though. She borrowed his 175 dirt bike, (2 stroke) which had a separate oil tank, for a weekend. She put gas in it but forgot all about the oil. Bore, piston and rings. Roll Eyes

I've had some "screaming its guts out" incidents with two strokes over the years.

I think the best thing to do is to suck it up, pull the clutch lever in, mash it into second, and feather the clutch out. The engine should die then.....

However, in your case (centrifugal clutch), kicking it into gear may have triggered the mother of all loop-outs!

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #32 - 05/28/13 at 19:11:04 what about carefully feeding it a stream of water? not enough to drown it, but enough to cool it down and kill the hot spot.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28660 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #33 - 05/28/13 at 19:16:43 manual pets are nice... ...
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #34 - 05/28/13 at 19:20:01 Serowbot wrote on 05/28/13 at 19:16:43: manual pets are nice... ... I've actually seen where killing the fuel flow causes it to scream even worse....and on a two-stroke using pre-mix, now you're threatened with a seizure (lack of oil to a screaming top end).... BTDT!
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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #35 - 05/28/13 at 19:28:01 So you are saying it will run without fuel. Some one ought to patten that.
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Re: Positive Connector Shorted
Reply #36 - 05/28/13 at 20:08:35

As a 2 stroke starts running outta gas it goes lean & the RPMs go up for a short while. YOu run model airplanes & get them set "right" on fuel as its flying, cramming air in the intake & Then it starts starving when the tank goes dry & they do scream,, & yes, on a newish engine, you risk seizing the piston. I did that on one & it did seize. Motor stopped so fast the crank snapped off & the propeller left, along with a short piece of crank,.

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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #37 - 06/02/13 at 08:18:30 Strangest thing that ever happened to me while running model planes: I was running an .049 with a spring starter on a combat plane and the spring caught in the prop and started the engine running backwards. Smack!!
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arteacher Serious Thumper Offline Ride as if your naked and invisable! Posts: 2581 London ontario Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #38 - 06/02/13 at 08:25:02 Serowbot wrote on 05/28/13 at 19:16:43: manual pets are nice... ... The petcock kind of slipped my mind at the time. I don't remember ever using the petcock.
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Re: Positive Connector Shorted
Reply #39 - 06/24/13 at 13:13:58

apache snow-FSO wrote on 05/28/13 at 05:57:21:

The correct AMG battery is a 14AHL-BS. Same size, terminals in the correct position and correct amp hour.

Question: AutoZone saddled me with a Magnapower/ Powersport AGM battery - think it was ETX15L or ETX15 - but definitely not 14AHL-BS. Any idea if what they gave me will work? I'd try it out, but my bike won't start at all right now and I'm trying to narrow down the issue.

Thanks!

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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #40 - 06/24/13 at 13:34:01 Don't know. The dimensions are a little different. The 14AHL-BS is 5.3 long by 6.57 high by 3.54 deep. The ETX15L is 5.9 long by 5.8 high by 3.4 deep. Will it fit the battery case and are the terminals in the correct position.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #41 - 06/24/13 at 13:38:53 IF it'll fit in the box, probably. But it's like asking a brain surgeon if you can play the piano after a long surgery. The "15" should have more cranking amps then a "14"
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Re: Positive Connector Shorted
Reply #42 - 06/24/13 at 14:07:04

apache snow-FSO wrote on 06/24/13 at 13:34:01:

Don't know. The dimensions are a little different.

The 14AHL-BS is 5.3 long by 6.57 high by 3.54 deep.

The ETX15L is 5.9 long by 5.8 high by 3.4 deep.

Will it fit the battery case and are the terminals in the correct position. Huh

It does and they are!

verslagen1 wrote on 06/24/13 at 13:38:53:

IF it'll fit in the box, probably.

But it's like asking a brain surgeon if you can play the piano after a long surgery.

The "15" should have more cranking amps then a "14"

So if it fits (it does), would there be any concern about having the added cranking amps?

Thanks!

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #43 - 06/24/13 at 14:19:34 winterwalker wrote on 06/24/13 at 14:07:04: So if it fits (it does), would there be any concern about having the added cranking amps? Thanks! more the merrier, just means you can run the starter till it's a flaming puddle.
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winterwalker YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 25 Portland, OR Gender:	Re: Positive Connector Shorted Reply #44 - 06/26/13 at 06:36:18 verslagen1 wrote on 06/24/13 at 14:19:34: winterwalker wrote on 06/24/13 at 14:07:04: So if it fits (it does), would there be any concern about having the added cranking amps? Thanks! more the merrier, just means you can run the starter till it's a flaming puddle. Haha! Cool. Thanks verslagen!
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