Yea, every time I was trying to rev it would completely cut out, guess I was not just losing the engine but also all electrical.

used to wire up six batteries in M48A3 tanks all the time back in the day, still wouldn't give a shock.

A 12 volt will weld a wrench.

Ok, removed the battery, positive pole is melted some Wire is messed up a bit, shield is cracked, old and the negative is pretty bad too. Ordered both used from ebay, 5 bucks each. Will be down for a few days. No wire or anything else seems burnt visually. Battery still had plenty of juice on voltmeter. Should be alright once I put it back together.

I think culprit is battery so darn heavy, (the dry AGM one), that it moves side to side, vibrates, etc... eventually put some stress on the connectors. I hate that battery box. Perhaps I need to look into a lithium solution, they seems super light. Then I can remove the battery box, wrap the battery somewhere on the frame and forget about it.

Jump the positive straight to the starter power input on the motor.  If the engine spins then, you probably got a bad solenoid.  If the starter doesn't spin, you got a bad starter.  This is, of course, assuming that the neg is connected well to the frame where it should be.

I'm back on the road but, how do you guys prevent the battery from moving from side to side inside the battery box? A block of wood? I think that's what put some stress on the battery cables and snapped one off eventually. darn I hate this battery box, gonna have to shell $200 and go with EarthX.

Well there you have it, I dont have the stock battery, got an AGM one. Slighty different shape but still heavy as hell, I noticed it moves a little bit from side to side.

apache snow-FSO wrote on 05/28/13 at 05:57:21:


And the 14AHL-BS AGM was a tight fit in the battery box on mine. No worries about any movement.

Arnold wrote on 05/15/13 at 06:27:08:

When I met my wife she had a Suzuki 50 step through, a 2-cycle single. Her younger brother was racing go-karts on fuel (methanol+ klotz + nitro). One day he borrowed the bike, which had no gas in it so he put fuel in it, and went to the store for something. He did not tell my wife he had done this and she picked me up after work on a real hot day.
She mentioned it was not running right and that she had to keep it reved up or it would stall. Figuring that she was burning out the centrifugal clutch by doing that, I took over the driving, intending to put it out of gear and keeping the revs up. I stopped at a light, put it in neutral, gave it a little gas, and it went up to max RPM, just screaming.
I turned the key off and it kept screaming away. I pulled the plug wire and got a hell of a jolt and burning my fingers, and it kept screaming, starting to make self destructive noises. It then occurred to me that it was deaseling, and I pushed it, still screaming, into a gas station. I asked for a plug wrench, but the stupid mechanic would not lend out his tools. The bike is still screaming away, and has gathered a small crowd of mechanics and passers buy.("Man, I haven't smelled that since I went to the drags!") The mechanic finally pulls the plug and the bike stops.
He puts the plug back in (cross threaded) and I push it the 5 blocks to her place.
Her dad fixed it. (major bore out, new piston, push rod, rings, head, and clutch)
We drove it for 2 years after that.
She got her (unintentional) revenge though. She borrowed his 175 dirt bike, (2 stroke) which had a separate oil tank, for a weekend. She put gas in it but forgot all about the oil. Bore, piston and rings.