According to data from the FBI's uniform crime reports, California had the highest number of gun murders in 2011 with 1,220 -- which makes up 68 percent of all murders in the state that year and equates to 3.25 murders per 100,000 people.
The irony of such a grisly distinction is evident when you look at which state was named the state with the strongest gun control laws in 2011 by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. You guessed it -- it was California.
"What is very unusual is that California also has a program by which we can remove guns, recover guns from people who have a gun and then subsequently become prohibited or dangerous," Brady Campaign spokeswoman Amanda Wilcox said at the time.  The FBI data also notes that Washington, D.C. had the highest murder rate per 100,000 people. The nation's capital saw 12 gun murders per 100,000 in 2011. DC also finished first in gun-related robberies per 100,000 people - with 242.56.
In 1976, the District of Columbia required all guns be registered, banned new handguns and required guns at home to be stored and dissembled or locked up. Unfortunately, the draconian measures -- which lasted more than three decades -- didn't had the desired effect.            All this proves gun laws do not work!

The way you manage to avoid the obvious & replace it with some twisted "logic" at every turn is just amazing to me.

Oh Daney Daney, still smarting from my tongue-lashing after you laughed and laughed at my attempt to bring a modicum of civility to the TT.
you're a card Daney.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/10/13 at 09:47:12:



Dude ... state level or city level or municipality level gun control will work only if you walled in the area and inspected everyone entering for weapons. D-uh ...

NY, DC, Chicago etc etc have strict gun laws.
Nevertheless there is a ton of gun crime there ... and those guns are legitimately purchased in SC, TX or somewhere there are no gun laws.

I dunno how many times I have to point this out.
They increase penalties for gun trafficking along with every new gun law. Why ? what is gun trafficking ? You're really ignorant in the way modern criminals operate. We can enact a whole bunch of restrictions  for NYC or DC or CA. If we dont do the same in TX the guns will flow from TX to CA ad NY.

My neighbors traffic cigarettes and alcohol to NYC. They would do the same with guns if that wasn't a crime. Location specific gun laws dont work. That's cos roads do work. D-uh.

Cool.
Srinath.

Ever been to Chicago????
C(r)ook County?

Really? Take the baddest NC gang & drop them off in Watts?
That's about like saying, "take the baddest high school football team & drop them in the NFL!"
I grew up in Rockford, IL....9th most violent city in the nation. Right up the alley from Chicago & Gary, IN. Like I said, ever been there??? Cabrini Greens projects? (It's gone now), the police wouldn't even go there in the 90's! The criminals there don't casually commute to another state, buy a weapon, & drive back. It doesn't work like that. A house is broken into, guns found, and sold on the street. Pretty simple. Gun laws will never work because laws only apply to law abiding citizens. Gang members don't give a flying %*#! about if they're rolling illegally. Thats why they're called "criminals". The only time they care about the laws is when they're standing before the judge & jury.

Another time they should consider the laws is if they come in my house, or threaten my family's well being. I for sure wont be calling for police "assistance"!!!  

Gun l;aws work fine. The law abiding people obey them,,those selling them against the law ARE felons, theyre just not yet caught,

Your position is easily applied to the drug problem,, drugs are illegal everywhere, but, theyre,, well,, Everywhere. So, drug laws dont work, well,, except on law abiding people,

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/16/13 at 12:07:57:



Yea we are in rerun season.

AFAIK, no one is making guns in their closet. They are making drugs there. The drugs in cities like NYC and where ever come from drug labs 100 or so miles around. SC drugs may make their way to NYC - maybe.  I have not looked into that.

The guns getting into NYC are coming from someplace like SC or where ever gun laws are loose. They are not made in people's closets. When that happens, gun laws prevent good people from getting guns, and dont stop the criminal.

Cool.
Srinath.