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Doug Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 95 Texarkana, AR Gender:	Petcock slip up 05/08/13 at 04:16:08 Hmm. Seems I left it on prime all night on accident. Will this cause carb flooding? If so should I take it out and drain it?
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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #1 - 05/08/13 at 04:38:39 Nope......The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device, and if your floats are working properly there is likely not an issue. If the bike starts....you are good to go!
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #2 - 05/08/13 at 05:29:04 Quote: The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device, --------------------------------------------------------- Dave, becareful w/ calling it a safter device ! That language does not set well w/ the Mod Squad around here. Wait a minute,.....you are the Mod Squad !! There you all go, messin w/ my mind again !!
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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #3 - 05/08/13 at 05:30:58

Routy wrote on 05/08/13 at 05:29:04:

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The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device,
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Dave,
becareful w/ calling it a safter device !
That language does not set well w/ the Mod Squad around here.
Wait a minute,.....you are the Mod Squad !!
There you all go, messin w/ my mind again !! Shocked

Ummmmmm. It is a convenience device?

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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #4 - 05/08/13 at 06:29:03

Dave wrote on 05/08/13 at 05:30:58:

Routy wrote on 05/08/13 at 05:29:04:

Quote:
The automatic vacuum petcock is a safety device,
---------------------------------------------------------
Dave,
becareful w/ calling it a safter device !
That language does not set well w/ the Mod Squad around here.
Wait a minute,.....you are the Mod Squad !!
There you all go, messin w/ my mind again !! Shocked

Ummmmmm. It is a convenience device?

^^^ It is a piece of junk... Wink

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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #5 - 05/08/13 at 06:41:24

Mine was still working in 2005 when my stepson crashed and holed the fuel tank. Bike is a 1998. As long as it isn't bucking and lurching going down the road, the vacuum petcock is working fine. Biggest issue with it is the factory lines, both the fuel and vacuum lines issued with the bike are a very cheap grade of material. Change them out, at the same time, when you see the fuel line cracking where the cut end meets the petcock body. Use silicone lines and it becomes a non-issue unless/until the gasket.fuel diverter in the petcock body disintegrate.

I'd classify it as more nanny state nonsense than anything else. God forbid an American has to remember to shut their own motorcycle fuel flow off at the end of the day... Roll Eyes

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Doug Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 95 Texarkana, AR Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #6 - 05/08/13 at 07:20:19 lol Thanks for the advice guys. I'm about to put a little fresh gas in, and see how things go.
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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #7 - 05/08/13 at 07:29:14

check your oil level, a black window no matter how you tip it is a problem, slightly higher than you last looked at it should boil off.
check your airbox, (you can just open the drain at the bottom, some will normally come out).

Park with your nose pointing uphill if you can, helps keep the gas outta the crankcase and your kickstand locked down.

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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #8 - 05/08/13 at 07:32:30

The stock vacsucker is a good idea that was poorly executed, with very poor long term reliability in a performance modded Savage -- such that it causes more (and more varied) running issues than a new person would readily believe on first reading about it.

..... see, I can do balanced when I want to .....

If you run a totally stock Savage you may never find out all the joys of the stock petcock as with the stock restrictive air filter in place it can work for years and years before finally failing due to rubber fatigue.

But if you mod your intake and exhaust systems to get back the 10 hp that Savage EPA'd away from you, then you can read about .......

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=========== how I really feel about stock vac sucker petcocks

.... but let's see how balanced you are when you are sitting by the side of the road trying to get your pisspoorcock to pass enough gas to get you started up again.

.... or have you changing your oil because it pisspoorcocked gasoline down into your sump again.

.... or made you stop at the gas station because you were out of gas again and you find out at the pump you were only part of a gallon off a full tank.

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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #9 - 05/08/13 at 09:32:10 My petcock is not giving me any trouble yet so I thought I would get ahead of the game. I just ordered a new raptor petcock with a spare gasket. So I should be all set.
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Greg Serious Thumper Offline Molon Labe Posts: 1251 Southeast PA, uSA Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #10 - 05/08/13 at 10:03:46 WD wrote on 05/08/13 at 06:41:24: God forbid an American has to remember to shut their own motorcycle fuel flow off at the end of the day... I never shut my Raptor petcock off. I haven't had any issues. Even after having parked for a week or so during the winter.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #11 - 05/08/13 at 10:22:44 No problems here either, and the current petcock is a 1970s Honda piece that was never rebuilt. On an unidentifiable scrap pile at the bike junkyard gas tank... As long as the float needle is in decent shape, it's a non-issue.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28672 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Petcock slip up Reply #12 - 05/08/13 at 10:24:11 It'll only leak on PRIME when parked,... if the floats stick... In ON position, this wouldn't happen... (the floats would still be stuck,... it'll just wait to leak until you start riding)... (So much safer to leak while you're riding?)... ...
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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #13 - 05/08/13 at 18:33:16

Doug wrote on 05/08/13 at 04:16:08:

Hmm. Seems I left it on prime all night on accident. Will this cause carb flooding? If so should I take it out and drain it?

If it was leaking you would probably smell gas and see gas dripping from the airbox drain hose, or at least a wet gas stain under the bike. If fuel went the other way it would be as Verslagen said: In the crankcase and your oil level would appear high. If you didn't see any of these signs fuel most likely wasn't slipping past the float needle valve. Just curious, why was it on prime? Huh

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Re: Petcock slip up
Reply #14 - 05/09/13 at 10:16:13

87 savage wrote on 05/08/13 at 18:33:16:

Doug wrote on 05/08/13 at 04:16:08:

Hmm. Seems I left it on prime all night on accident. Will this cause carb flooding? If so should I take it out and drain it?

If it was leaking you would probably smell gas and see gas dripping from the airbox drain hose, or at least a wet gas stain under the bike. If fuel went the other way it would be as Verslagen said: In the crankcase and your oil level would appear high. If you didn't see any of these signs fuel most likely wasn't slipping past the float needle valve. Just curious, why was it on prime? Huh

Because I had not started it in a good while and figured that most of the gas had evaporated from the carb. The bike didn't want to start in any other position. When I got her going, I got so excited that I forgot to flip it back down to on.

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