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Reply #45 - 05/14/13 at 10:56:52
 
all he was blind drunk that day,

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Reply #46 - 05/14/13 at 11:16:12
 
Oh yes, that's why they didn't report it until hours and hours after the fact. Google it.
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Reply #47 - 05/14/13 at 12:46:30
 
Starlifter wrote on 05/13/13 at 15:59:05:
...snort...I personally know of a child who choked on a piece of hotdog...should we ban hotdogs?...oh wait, hotdogs are not manufactured to kill people.



Neither are guns. They CAN kill people & are readily used for just that, but theyre designed to sling a projectile. How they get USED is determined by whomever is holding it.
Cars arent intended just for killing, but they do a lot of it,, swimming pools, baseball bats & knives

More die every year from physically being beaten & kicked to death than are shot by rifles, yet Im sure youre all lathered up & foamiong at the mouth in support of banning those Murderous Assault Weppunz!
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Reply #48 - 05/14/13 at 14:43:11
 
the timing of this article is perfect:
Should you ask your neighbors if they own a gun before your child plays at their house? And what do you do if they say yes?

After the tragic accidental death this month of a two-year-old Kentucky girl who had been shot by her five-year-old brother, the answer may seem obvious: Do not let your child play at a gun owner’s home, at least if you are not sure he is locking up his guns.

This shooting came just a couple of days after a prominent opinion piece in the Motherlode blog at the New York Times, in which a parent, Lisa Maxbauer, worried about her six-year-old’s visiting homes of gun owners. Another recent article at CNN, by Judith Palfrey, warned readers: “Never keep a loaded gun in the house or the car,” and “guns and ammunition should be locked away safely in separate locations in the house.”
The CDC reports that for 2010 (the latest year available), one single six-year old died from a gunshot. For all children younger than 10, there were 36 accidental gun deaths, and that is out of 41 million children. Perhaps most important, about two-thirds of these accidental gun deaths involving young children are not shots fired by other little kids but rather by adult males with criminal backgrounds. In other words, unless you send your child to play at a criminal’s home, she is exceedingly unlikely to get shot.

Indeed, if you are going to worry about your child’s safety you should check into other, perhaps less obvious dangers lurking in the playmate’s house: swimming pools, bathtubs, water buckets, bicycles, and chemicals and medications that can cause fatal poisoning. Drownings alone claimed 609 deaths; fires, 262 lives; poisonings, 54 lives. And don’t forget to ask about the playmate’s parents’ car and their driving records if your child will ride with them: After all, motor-vehicle accidents killed 923 children younger than 10.

In her CNN article, Judith Palfrey wrote: “According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 6,570 people ages 1 to 24 died from firearm injuries in 2010. That’s 18 people every day and a staggering seven a day for children ages 1 to 19.” But these numbers tell us nothing about the point of her piece: the risk to young children of guns in the home. About 56 percent of her number comes from homicides for 17- to 24-year-olds, which overwhelmingly involve gang activity and drugs. Another 27 percent involves suicides for 18- to 24-year-olds, and she ignores the overwhelming research showing that people can easily commit suicides in many different ways.

Let us not forget that guns do provide self-defense, as I examine in detail in More Guns, Less Crime. Guns are used defensively some 2 million times each year. Even though the police are extremely important in reducing crime, they simply can’t be there all the time and virtually always arrive after the crime has been committed. Defending oneself with a gun is by far the safest course of action when one is confronted by a criminal. In several recent cases in which guns in the home were locked and inaccessible, the intruders killed the children in the home.

My research on juvenile accidental gun deaths for all U.S. states shows that mandates that guns be locked up had no impact. What did happen in states with such mandates, however, was that criminals attacked more people in their homes and crimes were more successful: 300 more total murders and 4,000 more rapes occurred each year in these states. Burglaries also rose dramatically. The evidence also indicates that states with the biggest increases in gun ownership have seen the biggest drops in violent crime.

Asking neighbors about guns not only strains relationships, it also exaggerates the dangers and ignores the benefits from guns. In the end, some good might come out of all this gun phobia: If your neighbor asks if you own a gun, rather than sarcastically asking whether they own a space heater, why not teach them about guns and offer to go to a shooting range together?

— John Lott is a former chief economist at the United States Sentencing Commission and the author of More Guns, Less Crime and, most recently, At the Brink.
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Reply #49 - 05/15/13 at 07:49:14
 
Ohh we are in rerun season already. Oh man ...

Once again - Lots of things kill ... but only guns can kill several 100 people in seconds.

You can kill people with cars @ that rate ... if you had free reign to plow people down in say manhattan. Else where you wont make it past the first 2 cos 100's of people are not walking being targets.

And - laws are made for the way people currently behave. You see "no shirt, no shoes no service - and you dont see "no pants no service" - that's cos we dont usually walk around with no pants. Even the punk wanna be gangsta kids walk with pants round their ankles ... not no pants.

When we see mass murders committed with things like pink pongs (or was that pink thong) ... anyway mass murders with something like cars will have the laws coming in for countering it.

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Reply #50 - 05/15/13 at 08:15:41
 
Once again - Lots of things kill ... but only guns can kill several 100 people in seconds.

airplanes, trains, cruise ships, ferries, buses.

We have laws regulating all of these, yet the accidents still happen and far more frequently than mass shootings. The bottom line is there are 300 million guns in the US. How many of these 'assault weapons' they want to ban have been used in mass shootings this year? One?

When there is a plane crash, we go back and examine what happened and take appropriate steps. We don't ban planes.

After Newtown, the appropriate step would be to review mental health capabilities.
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Reply #51 - 05/15/13 at 08:21:32
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/15/13 at 08:15:41:
Once again - Lots of things kill ... but only guns can kill several 100 people in seconds.

airplanes, trains, cruise ships, ferries, buses.

We have laws regulating all of these, yet the accidents still happen and far more frequently than mass shootings. The bottom line is there are 300 million guns in the US. How many of these 'assault weapons' they want to ban have been used in mass shootings this year? One?

When there is a plane crash, we go back and examine what happened and take appropriate steps. We don't ban planes.

After Newtown, the appropriate step would be to review mental health capabilities.



Yea we examine planes ... but we are not allowed to examine guns, and their owners ? Especially when it has been well documented its the person who is the killer and not the gun that is to be blamed ?

And mental capablities - yes as soon as the TEA baggers release the 3-4 trillion needed for it to start up, and maybe 1/2-1 trillion a year needed to keep it going, we are all for it.

Without the examining of gun owners how do you determine who fits in the mental program ? So that will have to be done.

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Reply #52 - 05/15/13 at 08:41:51
 
I'm trying to live up to Midnight's request to play in the sandbox nicer, but anytime I see the phrase TEA baggers; it ain't gonna happen.

so, if you admit enjoying being on the receiving end of a tea bag then you are free to use the phrase all you want. Otherwise, drop it.
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Reply #53 - 05/15/13 at 08:51:40
 
Dude I am not calling you a TEA bagger. If you choose to adopt that moniker - I dont think I'm responsible for that.
And I also use "TEA" - its an acronym.
I can say - these Idiots - or that idiotic idea - how else do you criticize the idea.

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