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Re: Should the LS400 be recognised as a true Savag
Reply #30 - 04/25/13 at 17:09:22
 
rfw2003 wrote on 04/25/13 at 12:11:35:
Well here's my take on it, It's still an LS series bike so therefore it should be consider one.  Lets take a look at it from an automotive vantage.  Lets say the Ford Mustang  It comes with 3 different engines depending on what you order, the V6, 4.6L V8 or the Special editions with special badges the 5.4L V8 engines, Yet they are all still Ford Mustangs.

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No they aren't, last real Mustang left the line in 1969...   Roll Eyes Wink
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Re: Should the LS400 be recognised as a true Savag
Reply #31 - 04/25/13 at 17:53:51
 
WD wrote on 04/25/13 at 17:09:22:
rfw2003 wrote on 04/25/13 at 12:11:35:
Well here's my take on it, It's still an LS series bike so therefore it should be consider one.  Lets take a look at it from an automotive vantage.  Lets say the Ford Mustang  It comes with 3 different engines depending on what you order, the V6, 4.6L V8 or the Special editions with special badges the 5.4L V8 engines, Yet they are all still Ford Mustangs.

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No they aren't, last real Mustang left the line in 1969...   Roll Eyes Wink

I'll give you that one as I do agree with that.   Wink
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Reply #32 - 04/26/13 at 21:05:15
 
I suppect the 400 might be the better motor !    Sometimes at low speeds in the upper gears that big piston is ruff on the crankshaft .   I doin't abuse  those situations but  a  "softer" push might keep a feller from downshifting sometime.     Kinda like "completing  a low speed turn in third gear " , might  make a  person ( 650cc )  downshift on down to second.

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Re: Should the LS400 be recognised as a true Savag
Reply #33 - 04/27/13 at 12:59:44
 
MMRanch wrote on 04/26/13 at 21:05:15:
I suppect the 400 might be the better motor !    Sometimes at low speeds in the upper gears that big piston is ruff on the crankshaft .   I doin't abuse  those situations but  a  "softer" push might keep a feller from downshifting sometime.     Kinda like "completing  a low speed turn in third gear " , might  make a  person ( 650cc )  downshift on down to second.


It would be soooo much simpler to not split the engine, But according to another member boring it out to 96 will produce the following.
The 650 is 94mm x 94mm = 652cc
The 400 is 87mm x 67mm = 398cc

Bore the 400 would make it:

94mm x 67mm = 465cc
96mm x 67mm = 485cc

400 top and a 650's crank would be
87mm x 94mm = 559cc

If I am going to spend money on maxing out for more power, Starting with a higher and stronger compression makes sense.
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Re: Should the LS400 be recognised as a true Savag
Reply #34 - 04/27/13 at 20:57:08
 
Paul, I'm correct you  a Savage 400 cylinder size 88mm and stroke 65,8mm and the working volume of the engine=396 cm3
and I think the thickness of the walls of the cylinder sleeve insufficient to bore up to 96 mm
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Re: Should the LS400 be recognised as a true Savag
Reply #35 - 04/28/13 at 10:27:25
 
WD wrote on 04/25/13 at 17:09:22:
No they aren't, last real Mustang left the line in 1969...   Roll Eyes Wink

I think I owned that one,... it didn't get very far... Grin...
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Reply #36 - 04/28/13 at 11:07:07
 
Neither did my last one, a 66 with a 6 cylinder engine... Hmm... think that one was cursed from the word go...  Huh
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