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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #16 - 04/18/13 at 00:38:21

Serowbot wrote on 04/17/13 at 16:33:28:

Something I just learned.... If the rear hub becomes overly worn, (probably from from over-adjusting the brake, or wearing it down to bare metal),... the brake arm can overcam and lock up the rear...

Liam,... your rear hub isn't heat tarnished to bronze,.. is it?...
(That will mean, the hub has seen extreme heat from locking up)...

I am not sure but I do know that the rear brake was squeezing alot whenever I would brake hard so i will check that out tomorrow but that could be a possibility. We had just went on a 90 mile ride that day so it was Definatly used a lot that afternoon.
Cus I know the brake arm still works and what not but need to inspect the actual pad itself

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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #17 - 04/18/13 at 00:40:43

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 04/17/13 at 07:05:01:

Liamgeraghty wrote on 04/16/13 at 20:49:54:

Yeah within a couple seconds of it locking up my buddy hit me with his bike.

Tell your "Buddy" to follow at a safe distance..

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Would be a good time to change oil. Drain into something clean & inspect the oil for aluminum bits & ferrous bits, IOW, drag a magnet thru it & shine a lite at it, maybe even pour it thru a paint filter, or Tee shirt. Mite wanna autopsy the oil filter, see whats in there.

If I find any aluminum bits what would that mean

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28675 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway Reply #18 - 04/18/13 at 01:02:29 Not sure about aluminum,... maybe top-end valves and rings... but, steel... would be some tranny lock-up?... I'm just guessin'... I'll be interested to know... I'm more a tuner, than a machinist.... ....
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Reply #19 - 04/18/13 at 09:15:46

geez...this guy locks up his bike at a clip, gets knocked off by his riding buddy and is talking like it's no big deal...I'd be sitting on the couch drinking beer for a week after that!

anyway, only time I've had a lock up it was on a 2-stroke and it wasn't going fast but stopped me pretty quick...piston seized...just sayin'
bike started back up and ran but when i pulled the jug off it the piston was smeared pretty bad...

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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #20 - 04/18/13 at 10:13:27

Bubba wrote on 04/18/13 at 09:15:46:

geez...this guy locks up his bike at a clip, gets knocked off by his riding buddy and is talking like it's no big deal...I'd be sitting on the couch drinking beer for a week after that!

anyway, only time I've had a lock up it was on a 2-stroke and it wasn't going fast but stopped me pretty quick...piston seized...just sayin'
bike started back up and ran but when i pulled the jug off it the piston was smeared pretty bad...

I was thinking Poston could of seized as well. And yeah crash was bad but I was protected by some good gear still nursing a sprained wrist but everything else is healed up was 2 Fridays ago

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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #21 - 04/18/13 at 10:57:45

Liamgeraghty wrote on 04/16/13 at 19:54:29:

Yeah the bike is still running just fine I haven't gone farther then 1\4 of a mile cus I was knocked off my bike going 60 and the pipe cought fire

"I was thinking Poston could of seized as well. And yeah crash was bad but I was protected by some good gear still nursing a sprained wrist but everything else is healed up was 2 Fridays ago"

If the bike ran fine after you locked it up at 60, had the pipe catch on fire, and had your buddy run over you, the piston did not seize.

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Reply #22 - 04/18/13 at 14:40:37

Can I get some clarification on the "pipe caught fire" part of all this? Exhaust pipe? At the muffler end? At the head end? In the middle? Did something get on it or was it so hot the chrome/wrapping/whatever burned?

Could a valve in the wrong position be strong enough to stop the piston in a single stroke, power stroke after intake but right before or during ignition? Just throwing out ideas?

Could a blockage in the muffler, including raw fuel that then ignites be enough back-force to stop the engine on the exhaust stroke?

Or a bad baffle that recreates the "banana/potato in the tail pipe" joke.

It's the "pipe caught fire" part that is throwing me off....

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Reply #23 - 04/18/13 at 18:14:37

Dane Allen wrote on 04/18/13 at 14:40:37:

Can I get some clarification on the "pipe caught fire" part of all this? Exhaust pipe? At the muffler end? At the head end? In the middle? Did something get on it or was it so hot the chrome/wrapping/whatever burned?

Could a valve in the wrong position be strong enough to stop the piston in a single stroke, power stroke after intake but right before or during ignition? Just throwing out ideas?

Could a blockage in the muffler, including raw fuel that then ignites be enough back-force to stop the engine on the exhaust stroke?

Or a bad baffle that recreates the "banana/potato in the tail pipe" joke.

It's the "pipe caught fire" part that is throwing me off....

The tail end of it was ony burned and it was from the overflow of gas leeking onto it luckily somebody put the fire out in just 40 seconds or so and yeah I get alot of backfire

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Reply #24 - 04/18/13 at 18:25:06

It's the "pipe caught fire" part that is throwing me off.... [/quote]

That's the only thing throwing you off? I'm wondering why OF hasn't jumped in here & asked why you're trying to answer this with unclear info being given.

I think an invisible force field caused all his problems. It's a conspiracy against motorcycles!!! Roll Eyes

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Reply #25 - 04/19/13 at 00:00:02

RidgeRunner13 wrote on 04/18/13 at 18:25:06:

It's the "pipe caught fire" part that is throwing me off....

That's the only thing throwing you off? I'm wondering why OF hasn't jumped in here & asked why you're trying to answer this with unclear info being given.

I think an invisible force field caused all his problems. It's a conspiracy against motorcycles!!! Roll Eyes

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I'm just trying to get some tips on what to check cus nobody had any idea what happened to my bike so this is where I'm resorting to for extra information

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Reply #26 - 04/19/13 at 10:06:01

Liamgeraghty wrote on 04/19/13 at 00:00:02:

RidgeRunner13 wrote on 04/18/13 at 18:25:06:

It's the "pipe caught fire" part that is throwing me off....

That's the only thing throwing you off? I'm wondering why OF hasn't jumped in here & asked why you're trying to answer this with unclear info being given.

I think an invisible force field caused all his problems. It's a conspiracy against motorcycles!!! Roll Eyes

I'm just trying to get some tips on what to check cus nobody had any idea what happened to my bike so this is where I'm resorting to for extra information [/quote]

Grin

Yeah, I know, I should have asked more questions. Since the fire is unrelated to the lock-up then the brake over-cam explanation makes sense.

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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #28 - 04/19/13 at 16:29:36

Serowbot wrote on 04/17/13 at 16:33:28:

Something I just learned.... If the rear hub becomes overly worn, (probably from from over-adjusting the brake, or wearing it down to bare metal),... the brake arm can overcam and lock up the rear...

Liam,... your rear hub isn't heat tarnished to bronze,.. is it?...
(That will mean, the hub has seen extreme heat from locking up)...

This post from page one, were you ever able to take a look at the rear brakes?

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Re: Bike locked up on me on the freeway
Reply #29 - 04/19/13 at 16:39:52

Dane Allen wrote on 04/19/13 at 16:29:36:

Serowbot wrote on 04/17/13 at 16:33:28:

Something I just learned.... If the rear hub becomes overly worn, (probably from from over-adjusting the brake, or wearing it down to bare metal),... the brake arm can overcam and lock up the rear...

Liam,... your rear hub isn't heat tarnished to bronze,.. is it?...
(That will mean, the hub has seen extreme heat from locking up)...

This post from page one, were you ever able to take a look at the rear brakes?

I haven't been able to get down to the brakes trying to figure out how to get into the rear brake once I get in their ill let ya know the condition

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