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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #15 - 04/13/13 at 02:18:15 Yes WD, I have points fired toys too, 1929 Whippet 96A four cylinder and a 1930 the same. It's possible my 5hp Briggs and Stratton has the same. Your job to convince the manufacturers to go back to points.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #16 - 04/13/13 at 07:21:51 I just don't buy anything late model. Haven't for years, unless it is a magneto fired small engine. And I get a lot of flak on another forum because I'd like to replace my 69 D100's 318/727 auto with a 251 L6 (valve in block) and a 4 speed manual... NOT a fan of overhead valves.
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zieglarf YaBB Newbies Offline Lovin my Suzi! Posts: 30 San Antonio, TX Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #17 - 04/13/13 at 11:45:35 Does anyone really use that park feature? Or is it there just for headaches when we turn the key the wrong direction?
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Reply #18 - 04/13/13 at 12:14:07

zieglarf wrote on 04/13/13 at 11:45:35:

Does anyone really use that park feature? Or is it there just for headaches when we turn the key the wrong direction?

I haven't had a reason to use it yet, but it's there for a reason. If you have to leave your bike on the side of the road at night you need to put it in the park position so that people can see it, It's basically the motorcycle version of hazard lights. Although I think it should be in a different position on the ignition switch like this, Off/Park/Run with definite positive detentes to let you know. Or leave it as is, and make it where you have to push the key in to turn to park.

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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #19 - 04/13/13 at 12:28:10 My S40 has 4 way flashers plus the park position. I do not like the park position. I always double check to make sure I don't have it in that position.
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Reply #20 - 04/13/13 at 12:33:27

apache snow-FSO wrote on 04/13/13 at 12:28:10:

My S40 has 4 way flashers plus the park position. I do not like the park position. I always double check to make sure I don't have it in that position.

The LS650's didn't have the 4 ways on them, like the S40's do. So our only visibility feature is the park position on the switch when we have to leave the bike on the side of the road.

To be honest you just gotta learn down (counter clockwise) to turn off, just like a cage. If you do that you will never have the issue of leaving it in park position. If you drive a cage it should be burned in by now which way to turn the ignition switch to turn a vehicle off.

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apache snow-FSO Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 509 Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #21 - 04/13/13 at 12:37:21 I do try to remember the down position but I don't call a car a cage. Never saw the need for that.
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rfw2003 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1108 Yantis, TX	Re: Jump Start? Reply #22 - 04/13/13 at 12:42:06 apache snow-FSO wrote on 04/13/13 at 12:37:21: I do try to remember the down position but I don't call a car a cage. Never saw the need for that. I normally don't call them a cage either, it's just a habit I've picked up from the motorcycle forums, so it comes out automatically when I'm typing it on them. R.F.
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Reply #23 - 04/13/13 at 13:03:39

At least on mine, the 4-way flashers only work when the ignition is ON.

It is said that California is the guilty party in the park light requirement. They are said to have required that motorcycles (probably all vehicles) had to have a light which would remain on for at least a half-hour if the bike were to be parked beside the road. That led to a requirement for a battery, which led to electric starters and electronic ignitions (indirectly) since the power source was already there.

By the way, I think it is hilarious that a person who thinks points, side valves, and kick starters are superior is willing to use the latest in electronics, a computer and the Internet.

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Reply #24 - 04/13/13 at 13:06:53

RFW wrote:
To be honest you just gotta learn down (counter clockwise) to turn off, just like a cage. If you do that you will never have the issue of leaving it in park position. If you drive a cage it should be burned in by now which way to turn the ignition switch to turn a vehicle off.

R.F

I'm in the habit of getting off the bike and turning the switch counterclockwise with my right hand. It's the odd occasion when I stay on the bike and turn it off with my left hand that I always seem to burn myself. Embarrassed

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Reply #25 - 04/16/13 at 20:18:55

Update: Bike wouldn't start this morning again, this time I cranked three of four more times, and ran the battery down to where it wouldn't start tonight when I came home. This is how I jumped it.

Bike in neutral in front of truck.
Clutch pulled and tied in place.
Negative clamps hooked to both vehicles.
Hook positive to truck with other clamp in other hand.
Push start button before shorting other positive clamp to main pole on starter so as to energize circuit before hand.

The bike started right up. Now I get to figure out why it won't start in the 30s when its been starting all winter through colder temps. Undecided

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old_rider Serious Thumper Offline Backyard Bill Productions Posts: 3147 flordia panhandle Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #26 - 04/16/13 at 20:52:51 One or two dead cells? bad cells? low acid in one or two cells?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #27 - 04/16/13 at 21:29:11 yes, check voltage before starting and after while running. get yourself a float charger too.
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Jump Start? Reply #28 - 04/17/13 at 12:09:35 It started this morning with no problem at 27 degrees and fresh gas. I wonder if I had some bad fuel, or maybe they had prematurely switched from winter blend. Lows are supposed to be in the upper forties by the end of the week.
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