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45acp Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 153 on a shooting range in OK. Gender:	premium or regular 03/28/13 at 17:52:42 i have a 2004 savage. engine is stock except for the verslavy i put in today. the po said the carb was jetted, and it has a harley muffler. my question is. should i run premium or regular gas? i have tried both, but im wondering if one is better for the engine than the other. also, should i worry about ethanol in the gas?
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rfw2003 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1108 Yantis, TX	Re: premium or regular Reply #1 - 03/28/13 at 17:57:58 it's a low compression engine, Regular is all you need. The only thing premium will do is deplete more money from your wallet. R.F.
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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #2 - 03/28/13 at 18:05:36 Quote: should i worry about ethanol in the gas? No sense worrying 'cause most places you can't do anything about it anyway. As long as the pump says it's 10% ethanol or less, you'll be OK.
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #3 - 03/28/13 at 20:30:10 45acp wrote on 03/28/13 at 17:52:42: also, should i worry about ethanol in the gas? As long as your going through a tank every five or six weeks, no. Much longer and you'll want to use some sort of stabilizer.
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45acp Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 153 on a shooting range in OK. Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #4 - 03/28/13 at 22:27:23 hey thanks guys. guess ill quit wastin money on the good stuff. we still have a few stations around here with no ethanol,so i try to fill up there. good to know i wont hurt my bike if i go elsewhere.
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Reply #5 - 03/28/13 at 22:38:38

Even the idea, that "premuim" is the good stuff, is a misnomer...
Premium,.. is fuel with an anti-knock additive... it's not better... it's just fuel that has a higher ignition temperature...
High compression, performance need it... our bikes don't...
If high compression/performance engines could use it, without damage,... they would actually perform better on regular gas...
... because,.. there is more gas in regular gas, than in gas with an anti-knock additive... (that additive, is taking the place of fuel)...

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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #6 - 03/29/13 at 04:13:43 Regular for sure. The only real problem with the ethanol is if you leave the gas sitting in the carb for prolonged periods, if you aren't going to ride for a while like a month or longer just don't leave gas sitting in the carb. The ethanol seems to gum up over time when it just sits there
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Reply #7 - 03/29/13 at 08:47:20

Serowbot wrote on 03/28/13 at 22:38:38:

Even the idea, that "premuim" is the good stuff, is a misnomer...
Premium,.. is fuel with an anti-knock additive... it's not better... it's just fuel that has a higher ignition temperature...
High compression, performance need it... our bikes don't...
If high compression/performance engines could use it, without damage,... they would actually perform better on regular gas...
... because,.. there is more gas in regular gas, than in gas with an anti-knock additive... (that additive, is taking the place of fuel)...

The additives are still flammable so it's not like you're really losing fuel.

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Re: premium or regular
Reply #8 - 03/29/13 at 09:51:34

ToesNose wrote on 03/29/13 at 04:13:43:

Regular for sure. The only real problem with the ethanol is if you leave the gas sitting in the carb for prolonged periods, if you aren't going to ride for a while like a month or longer just don't leave gas sitting in the carb. The ethanol seems to gum up over time when it just sits there Shocked

Maybe the stations around here aren't all that bad...this is the second winter where I filled up at my regular station before winter, parked the bike with maybe 1/2 - 3/4 a tank and didn't start it for 3-5 months. When it comes time to start it in the spring, I have more issues with making sure the tires are filled to the correct PSI & the battery is charged than worrying about the gas. Have not had a problem yet, knock on wood, and my regular stations all have the "may contain up to 10%" disclaimer. (My bike is stored in a climate controlled garage when I'm not riding it, which may or may not impact my results too.)

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45acp Full Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 153 on a shooting range in OK. Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #9 - 03/29/13 at 11:11:48 well regular it is then. i didnt notice any difference between the two while riding. guess ill spend the extra money where it counts..... OIL. thanks guys.
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Re: premium or regular
Reply #10 - 03/29/13 at 11:12:14

Cavi Mike wrote on 03/29/13 at 08:47:20:

Serowbot wrote on 03/28/13 at 22:38:38:

Even the idea, that "premuim" is the good stuff, is a misnomer...
Premium,.. is fuel with an anti-knock additive... it's not better... it's just fuel that has a higher ignition temperature...
High compression, performance need it... our bikes don't...
If high compression/performance engines could use it, without damage,... they would actually perform better on regular gas...
... because,.. there is more gas in regular gas, than in gas with an anti-knock additive... (that additive, is taking the place of fuel)...

The additives are still flammable so it's not like you're really losing fuel.

Flammable, yes, but not with properties needed for proper burning in an internal combustion engine. If simple burnableness were okay, we could put kerosene or Jack Daniels or vegetable oil in the gas. More additives to control detonation do, in fact, lower the energy content of the gas. Regular has more energy in it than premium.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: premium or regular Reply #11 - 03/29/13 at 16:25:32 Ahhhh yes,,, you simply must consider the degree of burnableness of the additives,, HA! I said "Degree" talking about burnableness,,,
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houstonbofh Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 420 Houston, TX Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #12 - 03/29/13 at 22:39:10 Premium fuel has less energy than regular fuel. If you test it, a bike that does not need it will have less power on premium. It is only needed in higher compressions engines to prevent pre-detonation and too fast a flame front causing knock.
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #13 - 03/29/13 at 22:57:45 Mine will still burn the cheapest crap I can find. Same fuel economy on no name 87 octane as on name brand. 36mpg average with the apehangers.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28668 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: premium or regular Reply #14 - 03/29/13 at 23:27:59 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/29/13 at 16:25:32: Ahhhh yes,,, you simply must consider the degree of burnableness of the additives,, HA! I said "Degree" talking about burnableness,,, I was already impressed that you said "burnableness"... ...
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