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03/28/13 at 13:56:42

I was reading up on the oil recommendations for the savage and I saw that there was a couple mobile one synthetics listed. My question is: Is it special "motorcycle oil" or is it just the normal mobil one car oil? And do any of those oils need the special ZDDP additive or are those synthetics good by themselves? I have an 04 savage with 19,000 on the clock and I ride on the freeway often (only at 70mph) thanks.

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Reply #1 - 03/28/13 at 14:58:29

Never use automotive oil in your savage, most of them are not compatible with a wet clutch and cause massive clutch slippage issues.

The lowest cost oil that is easy to get pretty much everywhere in the U.S. and meets all the requirement without having to add any additives is Rotella T 15w40. Yes it's a heavy duty engine oil that is normally used in diesel engines but it also works very well in our Savage engines, and meets all the requirements. If you want a full syn that is all easy to get and low cost the Rotella T6 5w40 in the blue bottle is the way to go.

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raydawg Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 11551 pacific northwest Gender:	Re: oil Reply #2 - 03/28/13 at 15:40:16 I ain't say'n nut'n.........
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: oil Reply #3 - 03/28/13 at 15:42:37 bill67 wrote on 03/28/13 at 15:14:12: The last thing you want to do is use cheap oil in your investment.Premium oil is cheap insurance. Bill, whats goin on ? Are you ok ? You must be tired of everyone pickin on you !
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nateordie YaBB Newbies Offline impossible is nothing Posts: 37 Gender:	Re: oil Reply #4 - 03/28/13 at 16:29:35 bill67 wrote on 03/28/13 at 14:04:56: Use only motorcycle oil.They are made for wet clutches and transmissions. that's what I thought. a red flag went up for me ha. I've been using a semi synthetic blend but I'm gonna make a switch to the rotell or mobil one.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil Reply #5 - 03/28/13 at 16:42:41 How many million years you plannin on ridin it? Rotella T 15/40 is a great oil. It hasnt had the ZDDP taken out, cuz its advertised as a diesel oil & they dont have cataclysmic perverters,.
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: oil Reply #6 - 03/28/13 at 16:49:16 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/28/13 at 16:42:41: How many million years you plannin on ridin it? Rotella T 15/40 is a great oil. It hasnt had the ZDDP taken out, cuz its advertised as a diesel oil & they dont have cataclysmic perverters,. Sorry, diesels have had cats since 1993, and now urea injection.
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rfw2003 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1108 Yantis, TX	Re: oil Reply #7 - 03/28/13 at 17:02:08 I've got a 98 freightliner sitting in my driveway, with a 500hp 12.7L detroit diesel in it, it didn't come with a catalytic converter.
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Reply #8 - 03/28/13 at 17:05:02

Diesel cats are different compounds inside than gasoline cats. The last one we put on a Sterling version of the old Ford L8000 was $1100. The recycle yard paid almost $400 for the scrap one (probably why so many get stolen).

We used to run a semi-syn in Lisa's 800 Intruder, good old Castrol Syntech. Then they changed the formula... it isn't bike safe. If you are buying the so called bike specific from Spectro or Castrol, it's just car oil. I've talked to their reps way too many times to run either in a wet clutch air cooled.

And be leery of Bill, he seems to like cherry Kool-aid colored repackaged snowmobile oil for some odd reason. Huh

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Reply #9 - 03/28/13 at 17:05:02

Ok I got one for ya.....I got a 2002 LS650 Savage and don't know what oil is in it. The petcock went bonkers and filled up the airbox with gas, got new petcock and will install.
Should I change the oil because of the petcock failure? I'm planning on doing it anyway.....but here is the real question....
I bought regular dino motorcycle oil to put in it, I don't know if there is synthetic in it or not, will it hurt if synth is in it and I replace it with dino oil????

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Reply #10 - 03/28/13 at 17:46:07

bill67 wrote on 03/28/13 at 15:14:12:

The last thing you want to do is use cheap oil in your investment.Premium oil is cheap insurance.

I'll tell ya something Bill, I'm not gonna take the bait to get into yet another oil war with you. Now if you can come up with a way to increase the oil sump capacity on the savage to make it actually worth using a premium brand syn oil to it's full potential, I will endorse the use of $12 or more per quart oil in it. Until then why don't ya just stay out of the rubber side down like your supposed to do, weren't you banned from this area?

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: oil Reply #11 - 03/28/13 at 17:58:57 old_rider wrote: Quote: will it hurt if synth is in it and I replace it with dino oil???? I don't want to start any trouble, so I'm just gonna answer the question and run. No, it won't hurt a thing.
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Reply #12 - 03/28/13 at 18:06:11

oldNslow wrote on 03/28/13 at 17:58:57:

old_rider wrote:
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will it hurt if synth is in it and I replace it with dino oil????

I don't want to start any trouble, so I'm just gonna answer the question and run.

No, it won't hurt a thing.

Normally the change from syn to dino is no issue, it's the change from a long time use of dino to syn that may cause some leaks at the seals.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil Reply #14 - 03/28/13 at 18:41:07 If youve had a thingy failure, change oil.. it costs almost nothing,,
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