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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear. Reply #30 - 04/05/13 at 16:48:52 Whole thing sounds like overkill to me. Make the rod stronger, and something else will bend or break when it is forced. Just get another rod from the dealership, and quit abusing it by trying to force a shift. It'll last a long time.
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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #31 - 04/05/13 at 18:06:23

Charon wrote on 04/05/13 at 16:48:52:

Whole thing sounds like overkill to me. Make the rod stronger, and something else will bend or break when it is forced. Just get another rod from the dealership, and quit abusing it by trying to force a shift. It'll last a long time.

I suspect the the most common cause of a bent shift rod is a "Crap ! I forgot to put the sidestand down !!" episode. I think the shift lever is pretty much the first thing that's going to hit the deck, and the rod is the weak link. Don't do that and the stock part, wimpy as it is, is likely to be all right.

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Reply #32 - 04/07/13 at 08:20:51

I bent mine trying to force a shift into first. You know, like a jerk.

I was trying to bend the rod straight and that didn't work all that well, but while I did this I ended up misplacing (or accidentally kicking) the screw that tightens the shift rod to the shaft that comes out of the engine case.

Does anyone know what kind/size of screw I need to get to replace it? I know it took a 10mm socket, but am unfamiliar with screw sizing/specs.

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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear. Reply #33 - 04/07/13 at 08:26:12 Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it.
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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #34 - 04/07/13 at 09:28:06

jackedmusic wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:20:51:

I bent mine trying to force a shift into first. You know, like a jerk.

I was trying to bend the rod straight and that didn't work all that well, but while I did this I ended up misplacing (or accidentally kicking) the screw that tightens the shift rod to the shaft that comes out of the engine case.

Does anyone know what kind/size of screw I need to get to replace it? I know it took a 10mm socket, but am unfamiliar with screw sizing/specs.

You can get a new shift rod from this place for about eight bucks (plus shipping) They'll also sell you the bolt, but like Charon said finding one at a hardware or auto parts place near you should be no problem. Be aware that there are two different thread pitches used on metric fasteners. I can't remember which one is used on Asian stuff.

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Reply #35 - 04/07/13 at 13:38:56

Both 1.0 and 1.25 thread pitch, on the same vehicles. Doesn't matter if it is a car, truck, motorcycle, lawnmower, whatever.

We're playing the hardware mix and match game with 2 Suzuki bikes, 2 old Honda bikes and a Subaru.

And, one of my trucks has 4 different thread pitches used on its hardware, sae fine, sae coarse, m-1.0 and m-1.25. Canadian built USA market Ford Ranger. Angry

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear. Reply #36 - 04/07/13 at 13:39:10 Charon wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:26:12: Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it. I can tell you that my local Ace Hardware Store won't carry a 6.25" long rod with a 6mm right hand thread on one end and a 6mm left hand thread on the other!
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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #37 - 04/07/13 at 14:13:04

Dave wrote on 04/07/13 at 13:39:10:

Charon wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:26:12:

Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it.

I can tell you that my local Ace Hardware Store won't carry a 6.25" long rod with a 6mm right hand thread on one end and a 6mm left hand thread on the other!

I think he's looking for the pinch bolt that holds the lever on the shaft.

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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #38 - 04/07/13 at 14:15:49

oldNslow wrote on 04/07/13 at 14:13:04:

Dave wrote on 04/07/13 at 13:39:10:

Charon wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:26:12:

Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it.

I can tell you that my local Ace Hardware Store won't carry a 6.25" long rod with a 6mm right hand thread on one end and a 6mm left hand thread on the other!

I think he's looking for the pinch bolt that holds the lever on the shaft.

At least around here that left hand thread nut is a hard one to find. When I start making the shift rods I'll most likely have to order those especially since I'm wanting to keep it all Stainless steel.

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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #40 - 04/07/13 at 17:44:30

oldNslow wrote on 04/07/13 at 14:13:04:

Dave wrote on 04/07/13 at 13:39:10:

Charon wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:26:12:

Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it.

I can tell you that my local Ace Hardware Store won't carry a 6.25" long rod with a 6mm right hand thread on one end and a 6mm left hand thread on the other!

Ooops....I jumped in when we started talking about a differnet subject. Sorry! Shocked

I think he's looking for the pinch bolt that holds the lever on the shaft.

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Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear.
Reply #41 - 04/07/13 at 20:14:01

oldNslow wrote on 04/07/13 at 09:28:06:

jackedmusic wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:20:51:

I bent mine trying to force a shift into first. You know, like a jerk.

I was trying to bend the rod straight and that didn't work all that well, but while I did this I ended up misplacing (or accidentally kicking) the screw that tightens the shift rod to the shaft that comes out of the engine case.

Does anyone know what kind/size of screw I need to get to replace it? I know it took a 10mm socket, but am unfamiliar with screw sizing/specs.

You can get a new shift rod from this place for about eight bucks (plus shipping) They'll also sell you the bolt, but like Charon said finding one at a hardware or auto parts place near you should be no problem. Be aware that there are two different thread pitches used on metric fasteners. I can't remember which one is used on Asian stuff.

http://www.bikebandit.com/2006-suzuki-boulevard-s40-ls650/o/m147605#sch512178

Nice! I'm going to do this and get a new rod that is totally straight and just remember to take it easy on it when shifting. Thank you very much for the link!

oldNslow wrote on 04/07/13 at 14:13:04:

Dave wrote on 04/07/13 at 13:39:10:

Charon wrote on 04/07/13 at 08:26:12:

Easiest way would be to take the shift rod to your local Ace Hardware, and find a screw/bolt that fits it.

I can tell you that my local Ace Hardware Store won't carry a 6.25" long rod with a 6mm right hand thread on one end and a 6mm left hand thread on the other!

I think he's looking for the pinch bolt that holds the lever on the shaft.

That is correct. I'm going to order one along with a new shift rod from BikeBandit.

Thanks guys!

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18101 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: Lost 3rd 4th and 5th Gear. Reply #42 - 04/08/13 at 03:17:29 Fastenal has the left hand thread nuts. http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/fasteners/nuts/hex-nuts/_/Navigation?ter... Fasteners"\|~ ~\|categoryl2:"600072 Nuts"\|~ ~\|categoryl3:"608621 Hex Nuts"\|~ ~\|attrdiameter:120500\|~ ~\|sattr02:^Steel$\|~ ~\|sattr04:^Zinc$\|~ ~\|sattr07:^"Hex Nut - Left Hand"$\|~
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