Kris01 wrote on 01/07/17 at 18:31:31:


I've gone out 2 times since so now I have some feedback.  for starters, I may have inappropriately used the word "cruise" before.  When I "cruise," I mean ride steadily on back 2-lane roads where I often encounter slight hills, and corners, so, for me, "cruising" like that 3rd gear seems great as I often slow some, and then speed up some - over and over again.  I love that kind of riding!

However, to your point, I did try to "re-program" my mind to accept the lower engine RPM sound while doing the above in 4th gear, and it, for the most part, seemed to work very good.  I will try to make that my new "norm."  However 5th was just too luggish for what I encounter.

A lot of the above also depends upon the "load" of the hill, etc.  On even level ground going in a straight line with good visibility, I will now always try to go up into the higher gears.

thanks!

If I didn't Want to change gears I'd drive a car with an automatic.
Learn HOW and you can shift up and down from second to fifth and back, smoothly and without the clutch.

piedmontbuckeye wrote on 01/20/17 at 09:19:44:


Clutchless shifting is an art mastered by many truckers and heavy equipment operators.  If done right, no damage.  If done wrong, it will damage your transmission.  If you want to try it, read up on it before you try.

Well, I've got about 20,000 miles of just abusing the crap out of
the first one and three thousand on this one and they show no signs of being any different than showroom floor.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/20/17 at 18:01:26:


I guess I want to know how YOU know that there was no damage and like "showroom" ??

I'v ridden literally hundreds of thousands of miles.  Only clutchless shifting  I will do is when my clutch cable breaks and I have to.  I've been inside many motorcycle engines & and transmissions, and people do all sorts of damage that may not show up in the riding (20,000 miles !!) and yet WILL show up someday!

No thanks!

I am wondering why anyone would want to do clutchless shifting for just normal upshifting or downshifting. ???

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/21/17 at 08:17:09:


Just curious, have you had any of your transmissions apart after doing all of this clutchless shifting.  I would bet an interior inspections would show a lot of damage that you method of "feedback" does not show.

Thanks, but no thanks!

I am wondering what the official position of Suzuki would be in this discussion?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 01/22/17 at 07:54:20:


Yep!  Your feelings are all that matters.  It's your bike, but remind me NEVER to purchase one of your bikes!

Kris01 wrote on 01/22/17 at 19:09:40:


Amen