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03/18/13 at 10:37:05

Hay out there I'm new to savage world but I'm building a hard tail for one that I have. I'll post some pic. when get set up it is there any inrest
out there for a weld on kit like the one's for the xs650 world ( I have built 5 of them so far ) no I'd like to start building ls 650 hard tail kits. Like the ons or the xs650 cost would be some where around $250.00
for the diy kit.

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Dave YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 18092 Camp Springs, Kentucky Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #1 - 03/19/13 at 04:52:24 There was another fellow within the last year that was going to make hardtails available. He wanted input on the length and some other particulars that people wanted. As far as I know.....He never actually came throug and built any.
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Reply #2 - 03/19/13 at 06:41:16

I'd honestly be more interested in a BMW/Indian/BSA type plunger frame.

The Savage wheelbase is so small that a rigid frame keeping the factory belt drive setup looks rather stubby. With a chain conversion and a 4" rearward stretch a weld on rigid conversion looks really good on them. A bolt on conversion like those available for XLs, Big Twins, Brit twins and XS650s would likely sell better than a weld on kit, but, the frame is so odd as shipped that it isn't really feasible.

If somebody could engineer an honest, functional, bolt in points conversion and/or kicker conversion...

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12Bravo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 628 Mid-Missouri Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #3 - 03/19/13 at 08:55:29 RYCA Motors makes a bolt on hard tail kit. http://www.rycamotors.com/bikes/RR1/about/index.html
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dirty dog Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 75 Portsmouth Ohio Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #4 - 03/19/13 at 09:06:30 the rtca is big $$$ and looks stubby mine would be 4" longer and chain drive
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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #5 - 03/19/13 at 11:11:19 HOLY CRAP !!!!!!!!!! $995.00 for a bolt on hardtail.You can get a whole frame from Voodoo Vintage for that.I just bought a weld on hardtail for an XS for just over $200.00.
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Smokestack Full Member Offline The Devil made me do it! Posts: 244 The Hammer, Canada Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #6 - 03/19/13 at 14:36:49 Yeah, the Ryca stuff is spendy, and way too rich for my blood. A weld on could be sweet, though. The XS650 weld-on's out there generally look pretty good, IMO.
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ZAR Serious Thumper Offline Rock this town! Rock it inside out! Posts: 961 Kentucky, USA Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #7 - 03/19/13 at 18:41:07 I'm with WD....a plunger type frame,similar to the Saviour frame from Amen company back in the late 1970's would be trick! I can picture a plunger frame and a springer front carrying a Savage engine. Talk about a head-turner! Heat it up with Lancers 694cc kit and cam.......a real Hurley killer!
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #8 - 03/19/13 at 18:48:12 How was dampning done?
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WD Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Professional "scooter trash". Posts: 5207 Rosemark TN Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #9 - 03/19/13 at 19:11:27 By the springs, same as on a springer.
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Re: hardtail's
Reply #10 - 03/19/13 at 19:14:05

verslagen1 wrote on 03/19/13 at 18:48:12:

How was dampning done?

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_3qJOyFZDiLp3LlcYxNHuXNg3vSQU0f3eCI...

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Honestly, it's been too many years ago. I had a Triumph 650 single-carb mounted in a "Saviour" frame designed for the Honda 750-4 and it really rode and handled pretty good on our Kentucky two-lane roads and in those days I rode "balls-out" most of the time. The friend that helped me build the scoot did all the set-up work and tuned the plunger and springer every winter for me. I will admit to also having a sprung solo seat that helped too!

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dirty dog Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 75 Portsmouth Ohio Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #11 - 04/09/13 at 14:47:54 here are the pic's of my prototype hard tail I'm building
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dirty dog Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 75 Portsmouth Ohio Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #12 - 04/09/13 at 14:50:31 $ 300.00 in a diy kit tac'ed together $400.welded (mig welded) I don't have a tig.
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gdrseeker Senior Member Offline Addicted!! Posts: 365 Carson Valley NV	Re: hardtail's Reply #13 - 04/09/13 at 14:58:17 Need some bigger pictures.
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Jahoo Full Member Offline Posts: 113 Annapolis,MD Gender:	Re: hardtail's Reply #14 - 04/10/13 at 06:39:28 Anyone have any pictures of a weld on with stock belt drive? I hard tail strutted mine but I'm looking to do a full on weld on as soon as I get someone who can weld and willing to not rape my bank account. I'd like to keep the belt drive could I just get a longer belt if the weld on doesn't look right?
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