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Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove tank
01/31/13 at 18:36:46

I have a third bold holding my seat on located on the back fender. It is allen wrench hex key type. That is on so tight that I can not get it loose. I have tried and tried to the point that it is mostly stripped. With out removing that bold I can not get my seat off and in turn can not remove my tank.

Any ideas around this issue? I would like to change my spark plug.

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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #1 - 01/31/13 at 18:44:15 What year is your bike? Does it have the one piece seat?
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Dooley YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 42 Palm Harbor, FL Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #2 - 01/31/13 at 19:03:40 It is an 06. Yes a one piece seat.
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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #3 - 01/31/13 at 22:26:51

Desperate times, call for desperate measures...
If you can't get Zen with a screw and driver,... just drill that sucker out...
Replace it with an Allen-head... and go on about yer' business...
Huh

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Honestly,... I get a vise-grip on it with my left hand,.. screwdriver or ratchet in my right,... and lean my forehead on to the end of the driver... ... somehow,.. this concentrates the effort... and bolts come free...
Always...
I will allow no other option...
No bolt can withstand my mighty forehead... (and I have the forehead dent to prove it)... Huh

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Seriously,... try it... ... (put your forehead down onto the driver)... (it works)...
Huh

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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #4 - 01/31/13 at 23:01:03

Serowbot wrote on 01/31/13 at 22:26:51:

Desperate times, call for desperate measures...
If you can't get Zen with a screw and driver,... just drill that sucker out...
Replace it with an Allen-head... and go on about yer' business...
Huh

...

Honestly,... I get a vise-grip on it with my left hand,.. screwdriver or ratchet in my right,... and lean my forehead on to the end of the driver... ... somehow,.. this concentrates the effort... and bolts come free...
Always...
I will allow no other option...
No bolt can withstand my mighty forehead... (and I have the forehead dent to prove it)... Huh

...
Seriously,... try it... ... (put your forehead down onto the driver)... (it works)...
Huh

...

LOL nice post. It already is an allen head and it is almost stripped out as is. And yes did lean into it with a wrench on it already. Might have to drill it out. Do you think I should try a hack saw and try to turn it into a flat head first?

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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #5 - 01/31/13 at 23:04:21

Dooley, you may not wish to injure your beautiful forehead, I would suggest getting a hacksaw and cutting a slot in the screw head, then get the longest and biggest screwdriver you have, if the screwdriver has a square shank put a crescent on it near the handle and if it has a round shank use vicegrips, lean heavily on the end of the screwdriver and pull on the crescent or vicegrips. At best the screw will loosen, at worst you will remove what's left of the screw head, fall on the floor injuring yourself and cursing the idiot that wrote this.

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jcstokes Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com is very useful Posts: 2119 Mauku New Zealand Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #6 - 01/31/13 at 23:11:04 Dooley, if you are changing the plug, check all the posts about thorough cleaning around the area to stop crap falling into the cylinder.
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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #7 - 01/31/13 at 23:22:47

jcstokes wrote on 01/31/13 at 23:04:21:

Dooley, you may not wish to injure your beautiful forehead, I would suggest getting a hacksaw and cutting a slot in the screw head, then get the longest and biggest screwdriver you have, if the screwdriver has a square shank put a crescent on it near the handle and if it has a round shank use vicegrips, lean heavily on the end of the screwdriver and pull on the crescent or vicegrips. At best the screw will loosen, at worst you will remove what's left of the screw head, fall on the floor injuring yourself and cursing the idiot that wrote this.

Well I guess that is the plan for tomorrow. Hey if I break the head off at least I can get the dame seat off so either way I will not be cursing you. Wish me luck,

Thanks guys I hope I get the darn thing off one way or the other.

Dooley

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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #8 - 01/31/13 at 23:28:25

my 06(got er new) came with back rest and rack, that bolt is a beoch
have T handle alan wrenches but didnt want to carry one in the tool kit so changed bolt out to hex head, a 6 way screw driver with and extension has worked for me..
if yours has the backrest/rack you may need to remove them to get a vice grip on the outside of the allen or was that a machine head screw in there?
if so drill and eazy out

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12Bravo Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 628 Mid-Missouri Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #10 - 02/01/13 at 05:31:02 Also, with a 1 piece seat, you really don't need that back bolt. The bolt on my 07 was either left off by the mechanic that changed the rear tire for me or vibrated loose. The rear seat bolt has been missing on mine for about 4 years now. Once you get that bolt out, leave it out.
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Dooley YaBB Newbies Offline Posts: 42 Palm Harbor, FL Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #11 - 02/01/13 at 13:36:27 Well no update to give, been working on other things. I like the idea of "Once out leave it out". That little POS is gone if I get it out. Or should I say when because it is just a matter of how. Thanks again.
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #12 - 02/01/13 at 19:02:01 Dool, Although I've never tried this method, some have had luck with recalcitrant Allen head bolts by tapping a Torx bit into the head of said bolt and taking it from there. I'd try that before breaking out the drill motor..... Good luck!
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SALB Serious Thumper Offline FSO Posts: 668 Whittier, AK Gender:	Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta Reply #13 - 02/01/13 at 19:30:05 I assume your using a Metric allan wrench, as a standard one will seem stripped before you even start. Don't ask me how I know this.
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Re: Can not remove seat, In turn can not remove ta
Reply #14 - 02/01/13 at 19:48:57

SALB wrote on 02/01/13 at 19:30:05:

I assume your using a Metric allan wrench, as a standard one will seem stripped before you even start. Embarrassed

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