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scannerzer YaBB Newbies Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 31 northern ireland Gender:	timing chain advice 01/31/13 at 14:17:48 pulled the timing cover of tonight and found the tensioner to look like this going by the other posts i have read this is the maximum travel i should have so it's time to do something about it and stop the rattle i've been hearing! is there a way of checking the chain stretch without removing it from the engine, wot do you guys think from the photo
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scannerzer YaBB Newbies Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 31 northern ireland Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #1 - 01/31/13 at 14:25:12 by the way as i have to replace the oil can anyone recommend a brand available in the uk which has a high enough zddp rateing. I have asked some of the companies who supply oil to my work (i work in a motor parts store) but none of them have even heard of it. we also stock lucas oil stabilizer, does that boost it? TIA eddie
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Reply #2 - 01/31/13 at 14:30:53

I can't help you on the oil available in the UK but I do not use any thing from Lucas and no the Lucas oil stabilizer will not boost it. I have never purchased oil that needed stabilising.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=25354...

Check out the boosters in the approved oil thread.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565/0#0

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Reply #3 - 01/31/13 at 15:32:38

scannerzer wrote on 01/31/13 at 14:17:48:

pulled the timing cover of tonight and found the tensioner to look like this

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/9C32FA9D-3773-4618-A87C-C0D...

going by the other posts i have read this is the maximum travel i should have

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t373/Eddie096/D0FF36D5-1570-4019-AAD8-4F9...

so it's time to do something about it and stop the rattle i've been hearing!

is there a way of checking the chain stretch without removing it from the engine, wot do you guys think from the photo

17mm, shouldn't be rattling yet. Of course, it could be to a fine tuned ear. Cool

The cam chain adjuster is incapable of maintaining tension over the full life of the chain. At 17mm out, you might have .020 to .030" stretch.

But your only choice is to replace the chain or verslavy it.

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Reply #4 - 01/31/13 at 18:56:29

Did you paint the INSIDE of your engine? That's cheating... although, the bike does need every bit of help it can get in the oil department, and the paint will allow faster drain back... Wink

I'd best check mine one of these days since it has 15 years of hard miles as of this coming weekend. No noises yet, but, I've never opened the engine up to see how it looks.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #5 - 01/31/13 at 19:30:26 best I know dat dar ida fak tor ree job.
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ZAR Serious Thumper Offline Rock this town! Rock it inside out! Posts: 961 Kentucky, USA Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #6 - 01/31/13 at 19:52:28 verslagen1 wrote on 01/31/13 at 19:30:26: best I know dat dar ida fak tor ree job. Versy isa dat faktorie inna da cite of Lost Angels mebe ????
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scannerzer YaBB Newbies Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 31 northern ireland Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #7 - 01/31/13 at 23:09:19 [/quote] 17mm, shouldn't be rattling yet. Of course, it could be to a fine tuned ear. maybe I'm just paronid
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thumperclone Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline PGR rider riding with respect Posts: 6076 Grand Junction Colorado Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #8 - 01/31/13 at 23:14:10 maybe I'm just paronid if paranoia sets in change out your petcock
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Reply #9 - 02/01/13 at 06:55:39

WD wrote on 01/31/13 at 18:56:29:

Did you paint the INSIDE of your engine? That's cheating... although, the bike does need every bit of help it can get in the oil department, and the paint will allow faster drain back... Wink

The cases that come from the factory painted black - are painted on the inside as well as the outside. (The picture doesn't show it all that well - but the inside is black....trust me!).

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Reply #10 - 02/01/13 at 09:38:11

My bike has 10,200 miles on it. I am installing a Big Bore Kit & Stage I performance cam from L ancerand had the cylinder head ported at the local performance machine shop.

It is not wise to use your old cam chain when upgrading to a high performance cam...buy a new one!

I had Verslagen modify my tensioner and then bought a NEW timing chain from this place............

http://www.suzukipartsmonster.com/

After searching the internet for hours they had the best price.

Link to Verslagen's Place in the suzukisavage.com marketplace for the tensioner mod is:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1338489898

Link to Lancer's Performance parts in the suzukisavage.com marketplace is:

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1338581006

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: timing chain advice Reply #11 - 02/01/13 at 10:02:26 ZDDP can be found to add to oil if you want. They add it to the rear end gears of Moto Guzzis regularly. The Verslavy mod is, IMO, the single most sensible mod to make on these. The Super Verslavy comes with a detent built in so it Cant spit its guts out. If I was keeping mine, Id do it.,
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Re: timing chain advice
Reply #12 - 02/01/13 at 10:25:35

Dave wrote on 02/01/13 at 06:55:39:

WD wrote on 01/31/13 at 18:56:29:

Did you paint the INSIDE of your engine? That's cheating... although, the bike does need every bit of help it can get in the oil department, and the paint will allow faster drain back... Wink

The cases that come from the factory painted black - are painted on the inside as well as the outside. (The picture doesn't show it all that well - but the inside is black....trust me!).

Same as the silver ones, you just don't notice it, cause it's... silver.

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scannerzer YaBB Newbies Offline I love YaBB 1G - SP1! Posts: 31 northern ireland Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #13 - 02/03/13 at 11:34:59 has anyone had any issues with the wear on the teeth of the pawl. i gave mine to a local shop to have it extended and they refused because of worn teeth
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28886 L.A. California Gender:	Re: timing chain advice Reply #14 - 02/03/13 at 11:48:25 I once heard a guy refused to lend a rope cause he was hanging a sack of flour from the roof.
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