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12/18/12 at 05:05:15

It came time to do some adjusting on my valves thanks to the loud ticking noise coming from the top of my engine. Well no now its louder. Per this site, they should be adjusted correctly. Turned the timing nut the direction the tires turn while watching the exhaust side go down then up then intake side go down then up while checking with a straw that the piston was all the way up. Supposedly indicating I was TDC on the compression stroke. Adjusting valves to .004 and wrapped it all back up. Immediately shut it off cause it was awful sounding. What did I do wrong?

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Reply #1 - 12/18/12 at 06:00:35

the piston in the TDC can be 2 times...when it is in the compression stroke and when is located at the end of the stroke, prior to the issue of gas it is possible that you adjusted the valves it is in the TDC . check the correctness of just " turn the crankshaft-clockwise and look at the valves...first intake should go down, then up . as soon as they are completely and in this TDC adjust the valve clearances...

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #2 - 12/18/12 at 07:28:31 looks right, you can check yourself by holding a finger in the hole to feel the compression.
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JBK Full Member Offline Posts: 100 MS Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #3 - 12/18/12 at 08:11:20 Yea I watched the straw go up and down as I turned the nut back and forth. Definitely all the way up. Just dont know why it sounds worse. Did I skip a step?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #4 - 12/18/12 at 09:05:44 JBK wrote on 12/18/12 at 08:11:20: Yea I watched the straw go up and down as I turned the nut back and forth. Definitely all the way up. Just dont know why it sounds worse. Did I skip a step? only turn the crank one way
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JBK Full Member Offline Posts: 100 MS Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #5 - 12/18/12 at 09:10:52 Only turned it a hair to see the straw go back down so I could make sure I was all the way up. Im at a, lost.
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Reply #6 - 12/18/12 at 09:44:07

Go back, this time leave the spark plug in, just use the timing mark inside the left side cover plug. YOull know its on compression, cuz it wont wanna turn. Crawl it up there, allowing the compression to bleed thru the ring gaps. Itll wanna roll on past TDC a few degrees as the piston rod/crank pin come past the fullest extension the crank can give it, but thats okay. Its not far enough to roll the cam into contact with a lifter. Check the adjustments, make sure youre using the thousandths & not mm measurements on the feeler gauge & make sure you keep the adjuster in place as the jam nut is tightened. REcheck after everything is tight before the valve covers go on,

The threads on the adjuster screw & rocker arent that great & they lift the adjuster away from the valve tip just a hair as the jam nut comes tight, so its a bit fussy getting it right.,

Thats all I can think of & Im done for the day. Wish ya the best.

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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28678 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #7 - 12/18/12 at 09:49:59 I can't see that you did anything wrong... ... all I can suggest is try it one more time... PS.. the slightest cocking of the feeler can change the reading...
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JBK Full Member Offline Posts: 100 MS Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #8 - 12/18/12 at 10:01:56 4 times last night woth no luck. Will try again tonight with the advice. Thanks fellas.
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #9 - 12/18/12 at 20:55:45 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/18/12 at 09:44:07: .....make sure youre using the thousandths & not mm measurements on the feeler gauge.... jus knows of what he speaks....not that I've ever made this mistake....
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Re: What am I doing wrong?
Reply #10 - 12/18/12 at 22:44:17

well, if you have several times tried and tested valve clearances and they are within normal limits, and the clicking sound is not stopped, then try again to open the rightside cover and check the timing chain . maybe she loosen? if the timing chain loose appears very similar sound . and does not disappear after adjusting valves .

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JBK Full Member Offline Posts: 100 MS Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #11 - 12/19/12 at 11:41:24 Dont know if it was the little talk I had with my bike or you guys brilliance but I got her sounding sweet once again.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28889 L.A. California Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #12 - 12/19/12 at 11:46:27 Normally we adjust the valve when it's cold. Your several tries when hot would have resulted in loose valves.
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JBK Full Member Offline Posts: 100 MS Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #13 - 12/19/12 at 14:42:42 Could have been that. I also snugged the adjusting screw a little more with the gauge in there.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28678 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: What am I doing wrong? Reply #14 - 12/19/12 at 17:07:00 First time's always the tuffy... Next one will be easier... ...
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