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A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser
12/17/12 at 08:34:46

Don't get me wrong I love my S40, but this last summer I moved up to NY and sometimes travel back to PA on the weekends. I would love to leave my bike up here, ride to work, but also ride it back home (2 hours) if i want, or even just go on longer trips in general.

It doesn't help that I broke my tail bone and can't sit still for a longer time, but i was wondering if any of you have or have ridden a standard motorcycle compared to the S40 in the long run? Would it be more comfortable or about the same? It's about time to upgrade soon and just looking at my options. If I was looking for a standard, I would probably be looking at the Versys, NX700, or Gladius.

Any input is appreciated. Thanks!

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lacon YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 23 Knoxville, TN	Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser Reply #1 - 12/17/12 at 08:42:11 I've always found the standard the most comfortable. If I could only have one bike, it would have to be a standard. Ever seen a dirt bike with forward foot pegs? There's a reason.
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Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser
Reply #2 - 12/17/12 at 08:53:35

lacon wrote on 12/17/12 at 08:42:11:

I've always found the standard the most comfortable. If I could only have one bike, it would have to be a standard.
Ever seen a dirt bike with forward foot pegs? There's a reason.

Ditto. The sit-up-and-beg postion common to many cruisers may make the rider think others think he looks cool, but for grinding out the miles, a standard position (hands at moderate height and feet underneath or slightly forward of the body) is the most comfortable. That position must be adjusted based on whether or not there is a fairing or windshield, but, in any event, ape hangars and extended legs get pretty fatiguing pretty quickly.

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Reply #3 - 12/17/12 at 09:00:33

Probably you should figure out a way to take an extended ride on a so called "standard" and decide for yourself.

To answer your question though - a bike with fairly wide flar bars and the pegs and foot controls located under my butt rather than pushed out forward like on the S40, is more comfortable for me on long rides. I think that the crusier riding position also detracts from the ability to control the bike somewhat - makes it harder to shift ones weight around.

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser Reply #4 - 12/17/12 at 09:07:47 Quote: fairly wide flar bars I meant "flat" bars. Sorry. By the way, I vote for the Honda.
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Reply #5 - 12/17/12 at 09:51:18

oldNslow wrote on 12/17/12 at 09:00:33:

Probably you should figure out a way to take an extended ride on a so called "standard" and decide for yourself.

To answer your question though - a bike with fairly wide flar bars and the pegs and foot controls located under my butt rather than pushed out forward like on the S40, is more comfortable for me on long rides. I think that the crusier riding position also detracts from the ability to control the bike somewhat - makes it harder to shift ones weight around.

why is a standard "so called" ??

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Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser
Reply #6 - 12/17/12 at 09:55:10

The footpeg position of the savage certainly limits your ability to get some weight off your posterior other than for a second or two.

If there was a standard with belt drive, I'd might consider it. Otherwise I'd need a chain brush wash oiler system as I'd be cleaning that thing far too often.

the RYCA rearsets maybe a option for you and I've thought of adding a set of mini floorboards at that same location.

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Reply #7 - 12/17/12 at 10:21:01

oldNslow wrote on 12/17/12 at 09:00:33:

To answer your question though - a bike with fairly wide flar bars and the pegs and foot controls located under my butt rather than pushed out forward like on the S40, is more comfortable for me on long rides.

I ride a Honda 599 (standard), and I would say the opposite is true for me. I have limited seat time in the S40, other than a 3 hour ride home the day I bought it. I think the forward controls are better for long rides, in fact extending them forward a bit and a better seat would make it great.

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I think that the crusier riding position also detracts from the ability to control the bike somewhat - makes it harder to shift ones weight around.

Nail on the head here, but their is a tradeoff. Taller seat height and higher center of gravity make them more difficult to learn on. Especially in low-speed maneuvers or for people with short legs.

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Reply #8 - 12/17/12 at 10:49:10

verslagen1 wrote on 12/17/12 at 09:55:10:

The footpeg position of the savage certainly limits your ability to get some weight off your posterior other than for a second or two.

If there was a standard with belt drive, I'd might consider it. Otherwise I'd need a chain brush wash oiler system as I'd be cleaning that thing far too often.

the RYCA rearsets maybe a option for you and I've thought of adding a set of mini floorboards at that same location.

How about this?

http://www.rycamotors.com/bikes/CS2/about/index.html

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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser Reply #9 - 12/17/12 at 10:57:31 Gyrobob asked Quote: why is a standard "so called" ?? To me if it's got two wheels and a motor it's just a motorcycle. Standard,Cruiser,Sportbike etc. describe certain chractreristics that make one bike different from another. That's all.
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Reply #11 - 12/17/12 at 12:35:10

The others may be correct about the foot peg position and lifting yourself up every now and then, but I can't ride a 'standard' any more. The feet directly under to slightly rearward coupled with the angle of my body above the waist and the kinda sorta leaning on my hands really hurts my back. I will always ride a cruiser style. You need to rent one and see what you think.

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Reply #12 - 12/17/12 at 18:11:27

I like a standard position better and can ride longer with reasonable comfort. Some of the new standards seem to have the foot pegs a little high, or maybe it is just my age and inflexible knees and hips.

I know a guy who took in a sport bike to help a friend. He had problems with his tail bone and really liked the sport bike because as he leaned forward on it to grasp the low bars he said it took all the pressure off his tail bone.

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Cavie Full Member Offline My wife made me do it Posts: 107 Port charlotte Fl Gender:	Re: A quick question for all: Standard VS Cruiser Reply #14 - 12/17/12 at 18:38:14 They don't call 'em cruiser for nothin'. Here's the 03 Suzuki Valusia 800. VERY comfortable.
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