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Re: Opinions on Belt vs. Chain
Reply #16 - 12/15/12 at 15:28:14

Belt is cleaner, lighter, less labor intensive and ugly.

Chain is labor intensive if you want it to really last. And ugly.

Shaft drive is heavy, has high parasitic losses courtesy of the differential, and is ugly.

It's a toss up. If the cost is pretty much the same, go with the belt. I don't like the basically static gear ratio but, it is livable. As infrequently as Savage belts break, I can deal with the look. And if it does break, it isn't hard to swap out, drop a shock, pull a wheel and a couple of cheesy covers. It isn't like you have to tear the primary drive out and the inner primary off (Harley Davidson and modern Indian).

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Dave-Aus YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 22	Re: Opinions on Belt vs. Chain Reply #17 - 12/15/12 at 15:53:54 Thank you for posting the link to the chain conversion thread When I was clicking it from the table of contents it was saying "you are not allowed to access this" - does that with a couple of the links. (?) The one you posted worked for me - strange
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strang Senior Member Offline Posts: 387 london Gender:	Re: Opinions on Belt vs. Chain Reply #18 - 12/15/12 at 16:42:29 I'd say belt - I bought a Savage partly for this exact part of the bike. No headaches and I personally think it looks cool in chunky mad max retro future kind of way Each to their own but chain is definitely more hassle.
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oldNslow Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2683 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #19 - 12/15/12 at 19:19:01 Quote: I'd say belt - I bought a Savage partly for this exact part of the bike. No headaches Too bad we don't have a cam belt instead of a chain
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paulmarshall Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1268 Carterton,New Zealand Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #20 - 12/15/12 at 19:31:39 Mine is chain,running 15/41. Works good for me. bear in mind too I run a 170/70/16. I dont like having a dinner plate on the rear wheel.
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #21 - 12/15/12 at 20:20:53 Of all the things I like about my Savage, the belt is in the top three....
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Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources)
Reply #22 - 12/15/12 at 20:39:22

Digger wrote on 12/15/12 at 20:20:53:

Of all the things I like about my Savage, the belt is in the top three....

Same here! Clean,low maintenance,long life. I guess if you are one of those that is constantly tweaking for the most speed/fuel mileage/rpm range,etc. the chain is better. Me.....I just want to ride a scoot without constant wrenching.

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Reply #23 - 12/15/12 at 23:05:31

to my regret I did not fully read all your posts , guys, but the theme I was very interested...
I also have the experience of the operation of a savage with a chain in the drive and belt in the drive . so here is my very personal feelings...
at first, when I only bought his savage 400 he had the drive chain, however, she was already very badly sprained, terribly roared and crackled . during the long Russian winter I purchased a set of the chain and the sprokets . and with the coming of spring, installed them and drove season . mileage amounted to about 2-2,5 thousand miles away. a new set of course not noisy as the old... but considering what we have quite dusty road I often have to clean and lubricate the chain-about every week... it's a little annoyed . Sad

then I chanced set of belt and drive pulley with a small meleage . I purchased and installed(although the traction sheave I got from Kawasaki EN 450 and now I can play with the transfer ratio)

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the cost of money is about the same...chain kit cost me about $ 170 and 150$ for belt/pulley kit.
with the belt I like to ride no need to frequently wash and lubricated(my hands were clean

) other benefits you guys described above the size of the chain(if all the same you Dave want to install only the chain) in the effluent was established chain of 520 size. and I think there is no need to put the larger .Savage is not powerful sportbike ...and excess weight(520 kit easier 525, that I have set, approximately on 2-3 kg.) savage not needed. well, something like that...
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Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources)
Reply #24 - 12/16/12 at 04:27:06

wambr wrote on 12/15/12 at 23:05:31:

to my regret I did not fully read all your posts , guys, but the theme I was very interested...
I also have the experience of the operation of a savage with a chain in the drive and belt in the drive . so here is my very personal feelings...
at first, when I only bought his savage 400 he had the drive chain, however, she was already very badly sprained, terribly roared and crackled . during the long Russian winter I purchased a set of the chain and the sprokets . and with the coming of spring, installed them and drove season . mileage amounted to about 2-2,5 thousand miles away. a new set of course not noisy as the old... but considering what we have quite dusty road I often have to clean and lubricate the chain-about every week... it's a little annoyed . Sad

then I chanced set of belt and drive pulley with a small meleage . I purchased and installed(although the traction sheave I got from Kawasaki EN 450 and now I can play with the transfer ratio)

.
the cost of money is about the same...chain kit cost me about $ 170 and 150$ for belt/pulley kit.
with the belt I like to ride no need to frequently wash and lubricated(my hands were clean

) other benefits you guys described above the size of the chain(if all the same you Dave want to install only the chain) in the effluent was established chain of 520 size. and I think there is no need to put the larger .Savage is not powerful sportbike ...and excess weight(520 kit easier 525, that I have set, approximately on 2-3 kg.) savage not needed. well, something like that...
cheers

I have 2 bikes with the stock belt and on with the chain conversion.
The one with the chain currently has a 17/45 sprocket set with a 530 chain. I am considering going to a 16/45 ratio which is still a bit above the stock ratio but my give me the compromise I want with easier cruise and still have quick response for acceleration.
By the way, I was just looking at Samara on google. It looks like a good sized city there was something said about it having the largest square in Europe. Looks like there is a lot of farm land outside the city as well. That would make for some good riding. I saw an ad for Hotel Ozerki, said to be about 30 minutes of the city. It seems to be in a quiet relaxed area. I wish I could fly over for a visit and ride the country roads.

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wambr Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 610 Russia, Samara Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #25 - 12/16/12 at 04:52:04 Lancer, if I've understood you correctly, then you have the desire to visit Samara and ride? well, welcome!will glad you found.
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #26 - 12/16/12 at 06:56:52 I must say this is the first time I have been scolded for using the correct word - hysteresis - on a forum. Mark Twain is reported to have said "The difference between the right word and the wrong word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug." I suppose some prefer the lightning bug.
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Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources)
Reply #27 - 12/16/12 at 08:22:34

Belt all the way for me ... I am trying to swap the GS500 chain into belt ... if suzuki had put 30 sec of thought into it, it woiuld have had belt to start with.
They put a belt on the buells ... I love that about em ... gates polychain freaking cool, our savage one isn't that great, but its good enough for a low hp bike.

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strang Senior Member Offline Posts: 387 london Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #28 - 12/16/12 at 09:44:41 oldNslow wrote on 12/15/12 at 19:19:01: Too bad we don't have a cam belt instead of a chain Yeh c'mon Ryca people - the cafes are great but where's the teflon cam belt?
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: WAR -- Belt vs. Chain (facts & sources) Reply #29 - 12/16/12 at 11:16:44 The belt has less unsprung weight as well.
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