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Yea or nea to Seafoam.....??? (Read 442 times)
Routy
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Reply #15 -
11/27/12 at 19:07:36
justin_o_guy2 wrote
on 11/27/12 at 09:33:35:
I guess I didnt wait long enough,, the Gakk in the bottom of my carb bowl was green & Eaux My Gawd did it stank!
Jog, send me some pics of the Ka Ka left by e10. I've been askin for even 1 pic for 2 yrs now, still haven't seen one.
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11/27/12 at 19:10:56
You think I took a picture? It was a bit of green fluid, I doubt it was a teaspoon, I dumped it & cleaned the bowl./
Take a small container, approx the size of a carb bowl, put a vented cap on it so it cant just spill or get polluted, set it on a shelf & check it every month or so.,
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Reply #17 -
11/28/12 at 08:15:00
Routy wrote
on 11/27/12 at 19:07:36:
justin_o_guy2 wrote
on 11/27/12 at 09:33:35:
I guess I didnt wait long enough,, the Gakk in the bottom of my carb bowl was green & Eaux My Gawd did it stank!
Jog, send me some pics of the Ka Ka left by e10. I've been askin for even 1 pic for 2 yrs now, still haven't seen one.
Routy: Although I usually agree with the opinions you post - the subject of ethanol fuel is one where you and I strongly disagree. I understand that you have not had any ethanol related problems....and that is great. It generally is not a problem for equipment that is used regularly, and the positive results you are having with your long term fuel test in your tiller may be a result of your 2 cycle oil containing a fuel stabilizer......or some other circumstance that makes you immune.
Your situation is not universally accepted, and my own experience has proven that equipment that sits idle for extended periods with ethanol fuel in the tanks and carbs can be damaged. The ethanol absorbs moisture, rusts fuel tanks, dissolves rubber and corrodes aluminum.
Ethanol can be a problem for the rest of the world, and is well documented:
http://www.tractorsupply.com/content/knowhow/outdoorpowerequipment/is-your-sm...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25936782/ns/business-consumer_news/t/mechanics-se...
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/reviews/outdoor-tools/can-boutique-fuel-...
http://www2.wspa.com/news/2008/jul/28/ethanol_damaging_mowers_and_other_small...
http://jalopnik.com/5043482/ethanol-in-gasoline-reportedly-wreaking-havoc-on-...
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Reply #18 -
12/06/12 at 21:11:21
The only thing I have to add here is that, if you have had a bottle of the red STA-BIL on your shelf for awhile, check for precipitate on the bottom of said bottle before using same.
BTDT!
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12/06/12 at 22:56:10
Having grown up where Ray is talking about... I used SeaFoam, or marine Sta-bil, or 2 stroke oil, or even a bit of ATF in the gas. You can't buy real gas in western Washington (except at marinas) and most of the fuel tanks have some degree of water/salt/silt contamination. E-10 is the minimum grade of garbage fuel sold out there (and by state law all diesel is at least B2 and was supposed to go B15 last year). You need something in the fuel to help suspend the contaminants so they don't precipitate out and plug small carb/injector passages.
I spent a cold night in the mountains when contaminated fuel wiped out my 15 liter Peterbilt. I replaced the jets in my Savage every year out there, they rotted away or silted up, until I started treating the gas. I put 6 carbs on my truck in 2 years. Had to change all 4 injectors on the Celica twice.
Are additives a cure all? Nope. Do they help? Kind of. Best luck was with highly diluted 2 stroke mix, 3 tablespoons oil per tank of fuel. Carried a small bottle and a measuring spoon in the tool roll. The oil seemed to counter act some of the, for lack of a better term, bleah in the fuel out there.
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12/07/12 at 04:25:52
This thread has a useless title.
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This thread has a useless title.
Yep....your right. I fixed it.
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Reply #22 -
12/07/12 at 09:00:08
Here's my anecdotal report:
my chainsaw was running, but poorly, after sitting (tank empty) for approximately 8 months. I added a capful of sea-foam to a little gas-oil mix in the tank, after a couple of minutes it ran fine. I assume there was some crud (technical term) in the carbuerator that sea foam dissolved.
I (stupidly) put my chainsaw gas in the lawnmower by mistake. lawnmower began running poorly. I figured out what happened, drained the tank and refilled with regular gas + a little seafoam. it improved gradually over several mowings until it ran fine again. I assume the carb jets were clogged with oil and cleaned out by the solvent properties of sea foam.
Would the solvent properties of sea-foam negate the 2 cycle oil in a chainsaw or similar? ( that's why i just used a partial tank w/ sea foam)
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Reply #23 -
12/07/12 at 17:43:02
It shouldn't... SeaFoam is an oil based product. Here is a good third party look at what SeaFoam might be.
http://hildstrom.com/projects/seafoam/index.html
Note: I do not recommend anything on that page.
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Reply #24 -
12/07/12 at 18:39:55
Even if you believe the stuff works,.. you're paying a ridiculously high price for a few basic ingredients...
Sea foam, like most fuel additives is just a mix of Naphtha, pale oil, and IPA... (that's lighter fluid, mineral oil, and rubbing alcohol)...
Sound like magic?... nupe,.. it ain't..
The MSDS pdf is on their site...
http://www.seafoamsales.com/msds-downloads.html
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Reply #25 -
12/07/12 at 19:58:27
Yeah, but for the amount I use it is actually cheaper than mixing my own.
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Reply #26 -
12/07/12 at 21:04:50
What is the record for an oem petcock? I am at 35000.
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Reply #27 -
12/07/12 at 21:28:42
Folks who keep their bikes totally stock sometimes NEVER have issues.
The more non-stock or performance modded you become, the chances of needing a Raptor rapidly approach 100%.
Depends on you, mostly.
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12/07/12 at 22:10:06
is that dog years?
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Reply #29 -
12/07/12 at 22:46:52
Dj12midnit wrote
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What is the record for an oem petcock? I am at 35000.
I'd start saving my change...
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