The list's recommended oils are located here in the Tech Section.

Recommended oils listing:    http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565



=============================   what follows is a newperson's best oil he can buy locally in his country.


I thought the subject title would grab peoples attention. I have been following past posts and some members are very passionate about this subject. I have heard that Rotella is a diesel oil sutable for motorcycles, Well I have a motorcycle oil suitable for diesel vehicals. So this confirms that all of you who swear on Rotella you are on to a good thing. But of course you already new that.
Hmmm I wonder which oil is better Considering one is a motorcycle oil suitable for diesels and one is a diesel oil suitable for motorcycles.Not that it matters.
Have I opened a can of worms

I agree I was really looking for a bite. I know im naughty.
I just had to reword the original post.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/25/12 at 20:02:49:

gone fishing wrote on 11/28/12 at 18:42:25:

Where did you get those ppm numbers?

 
Let's see, do we have any VOA data that has shown up in the last year at Bobistheoilguy?

(or since the MA2 specs went into effect, in other words)



Nope, nothing new for Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w50.


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We got several new listings for Rotella T-6, but this does not mean the DATA is current inside the last year (and one is certainly not).






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Last time we visited Mobil 1 V-Twin was the tag end of the discussions on the approved oils when Mobil 1 made the list.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1347581091

At that time it tested 1,613 ppm of zinc which is in line with the old claims for the oil.   No one seems to know any current data on the oil, (which is not unusual for Mobil 1 products after a packaging change).

No one has seen an independent VOA on Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w50 that has been done since the MA2 standard swept away the rest of our oils, leaving only the short recommended list that we have now.

Recommended oils listing:        http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1344471565

I doubt Mobil took it below 1,200 ppm, which is the current threshold for being listed, so it is likely just fine for the Savage still (if you like thick over weight oil in your Savage that is).



So, why are you proposing an oil that is already on the approved list?

tizzyfit wrote on 11/30/12 at 16:56:44:


I'm converted!!!

I don't think you started off on the wrong foot, you just came in after the main discussions were all over & done, that's all.

You did remind me it was time to check BITOG again for updates on our recommended oils, so I did.    Didn't find much new ....

And I knew you didn't know about the past discussions, so I gave you access to them and asked why you were recommending something already on the approved list.

Actually,  I was hoping you had something new on the Mobil 1 oils as Mobile has been very quiet since they reformulated everything this past spring.

And I was serious about V-Twin being relatively too thick for the Savage engine, we have done our own list testing and data collection on the Savage engine that showed the correct synthetic x-40w oils had less temperature build up in both head and sump than the sythetic x-50w oils did.

Now, if you want to read the old oil war threads just type "oil war" or "Rotella T-6" or "Klotz" into the search engine.   That should keep busy for a while.

And it all got real moot last spring when the new MA2 spec change rolled all our favorite oil war oils into so-so car oils that no longer supported our Savage engine.

Then the push became to find ANY oil we could use or bump enough cheaply enough to fit our bill.    Bouletard did him some most excellent work both finding the good oils and finding safe ZDDP bumpers and putting together the mix page mentioned above.