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Some Thoughts on Fox
11/24/12 at 23:31:18
 
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The reality is that someone needs to start speaking the truth about Fox News, for we must grow out of the mindset which leads us to believe that any pack of bigots with access to a media megaphone has a right to have their opinions respected. In fact, part of me believes that Fox News should be considered treasonous for its efforts to rip the nation at the seams in order to make a profit.

There’s almost nothing productive about speaking to Fox News analysts or feeding into the mindset that has continued to poison America. They are like the WWE of journalism, believing that a few million dollars and a large audience can fool others into believing that you have real journalistic integrity. Nearly every branded clown on the network, from Geraldo “Trayvon died for wearing a hoodie” Rivera to Juan “The Happy Negro” Williams has built a career on a foundation of lies, manipulation and blatant bigotry.

The words from this fictional conversation remind me of why I went from appearing on Fox every other day back in 2007 (before I truly understood what they are trying to do), to turning down every appearance request they’ve made for the last five years. The network has served as a platform of ideological terrorists and those who are determined to destroy the country we love. Any individual interacting with Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly or others in the Fox News “Axis of Ignorance” walks away feeling as disgusted as a nun who slept with her neighbor for a pound of butter.

Fox News is probably the most unAmerican news network in the history of the United States. It is a reminder of just how much work we must do to make our nation into what we want and need it to be. Hannity’s prominence and high salary are visible manifestations of the racism and ignorance that lies in the hearts of millions of Americans. We can track our nation’s progress toward racial healing by the ratings of this horrible network. We will know that America is a better country when Fox News ceases to exist.



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Reply #1 - 11/25/12 at 05:42:17
 
snip: okay, Star i see every now and then you don't try to steal someone else's quote. What genius said all this?
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Reply #2 - 11/25/12 at 07:08:12
 
Fox News can lie!
Comment: Got the following email today. Was wondering how accurate the
information is.

Subject: FOX can Legally Lie

FOX News has legally argued in court that they have the right to LIE and
OBFUSCATE and won!

NEW WORLD COMMUNICATIONS OF
TAMPA, INC., versus JANE AKRE Case No. 2D01-529.
http://www.projectcensored.org/publi...s/2005/11.html

This is interesting and SCAREY!

Excerpt below:

"In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an
assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or
falsifying the news in the United States.

"Fox" argued that, under the First Amendment, broadcasters have the right
to lie or deliberately distort news reports on public airwaves. Fox
attorneys did not dispute Akre's claim that they pressured her to
broadcast a false story, they simply maintained that it was their right to
do so."

Please go to link above and read whole story if you're concerned
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Reply #3 - 11/25/12 at 08:19:20
 
This serves to (partially) explain why people who get their "news" from Fox are more ignorant about current events than people who don't follow the news at all. Were Fox compelled to be truthful, they'd be forced into silence.
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Reply #4 - 11/25/12 at 11:29:11
 
IMHO, Faux does not provide news.  Instead, it provides rightwing commentary disguised to look and sound like news.   The studio, setting, commentators, and guests, are all cleverly engineered to look like the other news stations, but the mission is clearly not one of unbiased news.    I think the main purpose of Faux is indoctrination to a way of thinking.  It's not much different than some 3rd world countries that have government controlled media (North Korea, for instance).   What you hear is a message that has been massaged by psychologists to produce a desired effect on the listener's mind, and just like other indoctrination techniques, over a period of time it will produce an altered way of thinking, and decision making.   However, is this not true in the case of any media?
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Reply #5 - 11/25/12 at 11:59:01
 
Arizuno wrote on 11/25/12 at 08:19:20:
This serves to (partially) explain why people who get their "news" from Fox are more ignorant about current events than people who don't follow the news at all. Were Fox compelled to be truthful, they'd be forced into silence.




I used to visit the neighbors. Fox was almost always on. They changed channel when G.Beck came on somewhere else, then, Straight back to Fox.,. Yes, theyre terrifyingly ignorant of what reality is,



Were Fox compelled to be truthful, they'd be forced into silence. [/quote]


No, not at all,, a lot of what they SAY, in the Reporting of Fact  IS factually correct. They get dangerous in their Commentary, where they tell people Why that happened, or How it will play out & why they should be Terrified. We have spec ops teams antagonizing Iran & any time Iran farts or the Palestinians/Hamas lobs a missile at Israel, theyre a Proxy arm of Iran,, OUr media is working overtime to con the sheeple into supporting another "Preemptive strike" to "Protect ahr fraydoms" some more,, & these rubes eat it up..

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Reply #6 - 11/25/12 at 11:59:40
 
Are you guys really so foolish as to believe Fox acts any differently than any other news organization?

In the middle of a week when the economic news was awful and we were still trying to figure out why Obama lied about what happened when out ambassador was killed, a Pew research study showed MSNBC ran zero 'news' stories than were negative about the president. zero. Okay, fine he's their guy, we get that. But zero? Nothing?
and you clowns are fixated on Fox News?....

Fox News is what it is because of NBC, CBS, ABC and CNN. You liberals who loved the monopoly you had on news for decades have only yourself to blame.

Fox was the only outfit to push the reporting about what happened to the ambassador. The others just decided to follow that story would hurt their guy so they decided a dead ambassador was a fair trade for an obama victory.  

I agree 100% Fox leans right which is a balance to the left leaning nature of every other network.

The nation needs Fox News.
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Reply #7 - 11/25/12 at 18:33:31
 
The Nation needs some UNbiased new reporting, None offer that on TV. Its left or right, none is w/o bias, an agenda driven "news" provider..
The globalists took control of the media decades before any of us were born.
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Reply #8 - 11/25/12 at 18:53:36
 
There has never been unbaised news.
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Reply #9 - 11/25/12 at 19:42:39
 
Study shows Fox News Viewers Know Less Than People Who Don't Watch Any News.

(They needed a "study" to come to this conclusion?) Grin Grin Grin

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Fox News viewers are less informed than people who don't watch any news, according to a new poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University.

The poll surveyed New Jersey residents about the uprisings in Egypt and the Middle East, and where they get their news sources. The study, which controlled for demographic factors like education and partisanship, found that "people who watch Fox News are 18-points less likely to know that Egyptians overthrew their government" and "6-points less likely to know that Syrians have not yet overthrown their government" compared to those who watch no news.

Overall, 53% of all respondents knew that Egyptians successfully overthrew Hosni Mubarak and 48% knew that Syrians have yet to overthrow their government.

Dan Cassino, a political science professor at Fairleigh Dickinson, explained in a statement, "Because of the controls for partisanship, we know these results are not just driven by Republicans or other groups being more likely to watch Fox News. Rather, the results show us that there is something about watching Fox News that leads people to do worse on these questions than those who don’t watch any news at all."

This isn't the first study that has found that Fox News viewers more misinformed in comparison to others. Last year, a study from the University of Maryland found that Fox News viewers were more likely to believe false information about politics."

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The viewers of Fox "News" are intentionally being misinformed. It is challenge enough to be well informed without being intentionally misled. The nation has been harmed in a tangible way through this right wing propaganda.

Just how bad is it? These Fox dummies are SURE that Obama is going to try to take their guns away. You know, just like Bill and Hillary did. Munitions manufacturers made ginormous profits through a misinformation campaign. I understand there was a second huge surge in ammunition and gun sales after Obama was reelected because he was sure to try to take their guns away in a second term. It's a great gig!

Now they have created a wild conspiracy theory that Obama is going to change the law so he can be elected to a third term. They do not suspect for one moment that they could be the victims of a ruse. Teh stupid, it hurts.
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Reply #10 - 11/25/12 at 20:00:21
 
To me this whole election cycle and the ensuing post election smear campaign is outrageous.

Fox News should have its plug pulled and be removed from the air waves for inciting fear and panic through the spread of lies and rumors as truth. It is damaging our country.

This media outlet has gone far beyond just reporting the facts. Facts are not important to them and it is hurting our country. When a good chunk of the American people believe Obama was not born in the US, that he is a Muslim, he is coming for your guns, illegal's have more rights than whites, there were weapons of mass destructions in Iraq, there is no climate change, that reagan was a saint, that unions are bad, liberal are stupid, fetus are more important than babies, the pill is bad viagra is great, republicans can cheat but democrats must be impeached, ayn rand is a great writer, the insanity never ends.

I am a strong proponent of free speech. But at the same time our sister democracy and my next door neighbor Canada, has successfully enacted laws which prevent a news station that lies to the public from getting a license. Broadcasting Fox from any Canadian station is prohibitated. I don't see why we couldn't do the same. Preventing lying is no affront to free speech.
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Reply #11 - 11/26/12 at 05:06:02
 


Broadcasting Fox from any Canadian station is prohibitated

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2004/11/18/fox_crtc041118.html

should we ban you from here from lying which is something you do often?

besides, Canada and free speech ain't what it used to be....

and you never answered this question Star: snip: okay, Star i see every now and then you don't try to steal someone else's quote. What genius said all this?
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Reply #12 - 11/26/12 at 06:34:03
 
WebsterMark wrote on 11/25/12 at 18:53:36:
There has never been unbaised news.



Right again Web, but being biased un intentionally means you end up being called liberal by the conservatives and conservative by the liberals and you end up sort of straddling the neutral line that it averages out to be unbiased.

Faux news ... well enuff said.

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Reply #13 - 11/26/12 at 14:13:42
 
hahah I love this thread.. so I can tell MY story:

I like computer games... yup I play on the computer. So several years ago Fox did a story on a new game that came out. They brought out two "experts" to comment on the game. The experts agreed, the game was full of sex and violence and should be baned. One of the experts spoke directly to a violent scene in the game.

Except the scene didnt exist.
... and the 'expert" had never seen the game
...oh wait NEITHER expert had spent any time in the game.
One "expert' confessed (in a gaming trade blog)... he made it up, its what the network wanted

So the game maker called Fox out... and Fox's response.. "come on our show and defend your position".. but our story stands.. well except we pulled every mention of it ever being reported and any video we had of it off the web.

When the story first broke.. me and about 400 forum members went and looked at the offending story..(it DID exist) a day later it was gone.. you cant even find that it EVER occurred now.  I NEVER watch Fox... has nothing to do with politics. Fox is an entertaiment station.. and if I want entertainment I watch syfy or History, or TLC, or Discovery.

So you two ( dems and reps) hash out Fox all you want... best I can do .. pretend they do not exist.

I win!!!!    Grin

PS; I dont watch CNN, CNBC, MSNBC, or any other for that matter.  I love what Ronnie said " Trust but verify" ... so pretty much google.  

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PS: I found a separate post about it:

http://www.helium.com/items/818087-how-the-media-is-going-out-of-control
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Reply #14 - 11/26/12 at 15:44:02
 
Ooooo ... I'll tell you where Faux news really works though
On election night, I was watching CNN, and as Obama was pulling ahead and they were saying OH and FL etc were going against RMoney ... I knew that the Faux news wil lskew it RMoney's way, and if they throw in the towel calling it for Obama, it was over ... and man was it worth it. Karl Rove's rant was singularly worth it.

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