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LostArtist
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so that slipping on gravel thing is real
11/21/12 at 19:35:07
 
And it hurts

Twisted ankle bad. 180 degrees wrong way kinda bad. Ankle was trapped under bike
Note to self buy real motorcycle boots.
Ankle is wrapped up and on ice now. Hope I can walk on Friday

Broken mirror. Cheap $30 fix
$130 towing fee
Scratched up fairing. Not broken though

I still think I'm invincible!

With better gear

Accident made me dizzy though. Helmet saved that from being worse

Was slowing down and making a right hand turn at an intersection.  Braking and turning in gravel on road = ouchy

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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #1 - 11/21/12 at 20:09:12
 
One finger on the front brake on a Guzzi, just setting UP, barely even in the turn, on a gravel road. Went down so fast my feet were still on the pegs when I slid to a halt.
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #2 - 11/21/12 at 20:29:27
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/21/12 at 20:09:12:
One finger on the front brake on a Guzzi, just setting UP, barely even in the turn, on a gravel road. Went down so fast my feet were still on the pegs when I slid to a halt.


Yup I was just about to let off the brakes and really turn at the intersection

Wish my feet would have stayed on the pegs
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #3 - 11/21/12 at 23:10:22
 
Happened to me two years ago. I was on the ground faster than the speed of light...only a busted rear turn signal. No damage to me ATGATT.
Hope your ankle mends fast Lost...I'm very very very cautious of gravel these days, suspect you will will be also. Wink
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Reply #4 - 11/21/12 at 23:12:52
 
Lost,.. I try to wear some amount of ankle protection, to protect against hard objects in a fall..
... but don't go to far... boots that immobilise ankle movement, are bad..
If your foot gets trapped and twisted,.. it will still turn,.. but with the ankle flexibility gone,.. the twist will be at the knee or hip... that's much worse...
Your ankle has some side to side flex... your knee doesn't...
Injuries get worse... knee and hip injuries are harder to deal with...

Thankfully,.. you're still here to post your tale...
Take care,.. speedy healing,
Serow  Wink...
 
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #5 - 11/22/12 at 00:13:41
 
Front brake + turn + gravel = ouch ... with reduced traction under the front wheel, it doesn't take much to lock it up ...

Glad you weren't hurt too badly ... heal fast and git back on 'er!
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #6 - 11/22/12 at 04:29:16
 
Glad you are alright and that you have a possitive attitude afterwards   Smiley


ATGATT my man ATGATT, you just never know.  Make sure you get those boots  Wink
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #7 - 11/22/12 at 05:22:33
 
And you wonder why I think ABS should be mandatory.
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #8 - 11/22/12 at 06:13:45
 
Charon wrote on 11/22/12 at 05:22:33:
And you wonder why I think ABS should be mandatory.


Although I'm not against abs and wish I had it but I was coming off the brakes and just starting to lean in the turn. Idk I wasn't squeezing the brakes hard if at all. I want to go back to that corner and see the conditions there.  I'm definitely at fault for my accident.

just want to see how stupid I was
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Reply #9 - 11/22/12 at 06:24:45
 
... and, from what I've read,.. isn't sand and gravel in turns, a notorious weakness in ABS technology...
I read a bike review that said the ABS function rendered the brakes almost non-existent in such circumstance...
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #10 - 11/22/12 at 06:30:27
 
Mite be a time when brakes need to not exist.. Theres only so much traction at any one time. If 55% goes to braking, while youre using 51% in a turn,, you are overdrawn on your traction account & you bounce your butt,,
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #11 - 11/22/12 at 09:29:26
 
When I was a kid(up until my early 20's) our roads were mostly gravel. Just like learning to drive a stick-shift car or truck before driving an automatic,learning to ride on gravel first is much easier. I still enjoy taking those rural gravel detours whenever I can but you do have to respect them.
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Reply #12 - 11/22/12 at 12:28:12
 
When I was a kid in Florida I had a newspaper route, which by my estimate had at least ten miles of sand roads. I ran it using a Sears Allstate Super Cruisaire, which was a Sears rebranded 125 Vespa. Not only did I learn to drive a scooter on sand, I learned a lot about changing control cables. Now I live outside town, and the absolute minimum distance from the pavement to my driveway is 2 1/2 miles of gravel. Perhaps best is when I go out for a ride, and on returning discover the county road maintainer has "rearranged" the gravel. Our gravel is not the angular kind, but the "pea gravel" kind much like millions of ball bearings. I'd sure like to try an ABS-equipped bike on that stuff, just to see what happens.
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #13 - 11/22/12 at 15:28:28
 
I did a flying waldo thanks to some gravel under the front tire while stopping at an intersection. Nothing beats a low speed high side to test out helmet construction and how well the leather works. I ended up with four cracked ribs. Rode the beat up bike about 25 miles to get home.
 Hope the healing goes quickly LA, it sucks to go down, at least when you are on a bike.
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Re: so that slipping on gravel thing is real
Reply #14 - 11/22/12 at 15:48:44
 
Ed L. wrote on 11/22/12 at 15:28:28:
I did a flying waldo thanks to some gravel under the front tire while stopping at an intersection. Nothing beats a low speed high side to test out helmet construction and how well the leather works. I ended up with four cracked ribs. Rode the beat up bike about 25 miles to get home.
 Hope the healing goes quickly LA, it sucks to go down, at least when you are on a bike.


I once pulled up to a stop where the road was slanted downward on my left side.   I put out my left leg down knowing it would be a stretch, and wouldn't you know it, right into a patch of sand.  As soon as my foot hit the ground it started sliding outward, and in spite of me trying to hold the bike with thigh muscle power, I slowly did a scissor split and laid the bike over, slow motion fashion.   It was a 4 way, and of course, there were cars at each intersection watching the entire spectacle.   These things never ever happen when you're all alone on a country road.      Embarrassed
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