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11/17/12 at 17:05:28
 
Here's the problem with safety's...
They are made to protect the stupid... from doing stupid things...
The problem is,.. we learn from our stupid mistakes... and the safety's prevent us from learning...
You'll only ever try to start a bike in gear a couple of times,... then you'll learn...
You'll only drive off with the sidestand down a couple of times,.. then you'll learn...
You'll only try to ride with yer' petcock off,.. a couple of times, then you'll learn...
... but with these safety bikes,...you'll just stay stupid...

These new cars that watch out beside, behind, and even in front of you...  How long will it be before people stop paying attention at all, and begin relying on them completely?...
ABS brakes,... so don't have to pay attention when stopping...
Lights that come on by themselves...
We're gettin' dumber by the minute...

I say fight it!,.. disable everything, and pay some frikkin' attention to what yer' doin'!...
You probably won't die,.. ...and if you do,.. you'll be strengthening the gene pool...  Good job!...
Huh...

... and yes,.. I am the guy that tried to shave with his toothbrush this morning...  .. but,..
I didn't die...
Grin Grin Grin...


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Reply #1 - 11/17/12 at 17:16:36
 
For the Most part I agree with ya Serow.

As my safety switches start going bad or getting flaky I've just been by-passing them myself.

I've even decided to give up on doing the solid state decomp controller replacement because there really didn't seem to be much interest in it here, plus after several months of riding with it just by-passed, it seems you really don't need the decompression system at all, as long as you have a good charged battery.  Now if your battery was on the iffy side you might have some issues, but as long as it's in good shape it starts just fine with out the de-comp kicking in at all.

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Reply #2 - 11/17/12 at 17:54:54
 
There is much wisdom in Rowboats post.,.People get acclimated to that safety net & stop using their own minds. Thats what we need to be, is mentally less acute,, JUst what America needs..
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Reply #3 - 11/17/12 at 19:19:08
 
Please remove the safetys...I don't want to be turned into a Republican  Sad
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Reply #4 - 11/17/12 at 19:22:46
 
v-pilot wrote on 11/17/12 at 19:19:08:
Please remove the safetys...I don't want to be turned into a Republican  Sad



Thats very confusing, Bubs would leave them off, Dems would demand them,
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Reply #5 - 11/17/12 at 20:04:04
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/17/12 at 19:22:46:
v-pilot wrote on 11/17/12 at 19:19:08:
Please remove the safetys...I don't want to be turned into a Republican  Sad



Thats very confusing, Bubs would leave them off, Dems would demand them,


Got that right JOG....and us "tea-party knuckle draggers" that grew up on the old Brit bikes with right-side shifters,Lucas 6volt electrics and no brakes are still alive and riding(but thanking the inventor of electric starters every day  Cool ).
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Reply #6 - 11/17/12 at 20:13:18
 
Serowbot wrote on 11/17/12 at 17:05:28:
Here's the problem with safety's... They are made to protect the stupid...

No, the problem is that safety gear gives you the feeling you are safe -- so you do even more stupid stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Risk_compensation
Compared with the 1970,s, when no one needed to wear a safety helmet, with the last 10-20 years, the fatality of motorcycle accidents is over three times higher with all the "gear."  For cars, the fatality rate is only about 1.5-2 times higher with cars with air-bags and crush-zones.

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Reply #7 - 11/17/12 at 21:46:03
 
[quote author=03323F32373A3D530 link=1353200728/0#6 date=1353211998]Serowbot wrote on 11/17/12 at 17:05:28:
Compared with the 1970,s, when no one needed to wear a safety helmet, with the last 10-20 years, the fatality of motorcycle accidents is over three times higher with all the "gear."  For cars, the fatality rate is only about 1.5-2 times higher with cars with air-bags and crush-zones.

Nice to know,.. helmets make us feel twice as safe as air bags...
Mine has been crash tested... by me personally...
That's why I didn't buy a new one,..  this one works... Wink...
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Reply #8 - 11/18/12 at 04:44:34
 
I could care less about the safeties on the bike, I know myself and that no matter what I'll go through the proper routine because it's imprinted on my peanut brain.   Huh


Now as for the safeties on my pistols, I'll keep those for when I conceal carry to have piece of mind   Wink
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Reply #9 - 11/18/12 at 07:21:44
 
Normally, I agree with Serowbot-but.  I regularly seem to ride off with my side stand down.  I go a couple of blocks, make a left turn, and it bangs up.  It is not that I am a slow learner, it is that i am a fast forgetter.  Still, I also don't want an interlock.  I make a mistake, I pay the price.  No problem.
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Reply #10 - 11/18/12 at 07:37:29
 
Rubber finger, pointed down, past the foot on the stand,,
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Reply #11 - 11/18/12 at 08:33:17
 
I have a butane wand lighter for my BBQ grill...
It has push switch safety lock,.. another slider to flow butane, and a trigger to spark...
I swear it's like trying to tie your shoelace with one hand...
All of which takes enough fiddling, that by the time I get it lit, the propane in the grill has build up enough to give a great whoomp at ignition...
Thank you, safety nerds... you owe me a few eyebrow hairs... Huh ...
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Reply #12 - 11/18/12 at 10:09:40
 
Use a wooden match.
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Reply #13 - 11/18/12 at 11:20:58
 
gerald.hughes wrote on 11/18/12 at 10:09:40:
Use a wooden match.

Those things aren't safe!... Grin...
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Reply #14 - 11/18/12 at 12:53:09
 
While you are busy disabling safeties, don't forget the Park/Neutral start interlock on your car. Don't forget the one that requires you to step on the brake before you shift out of Park. Might as well disable the brake light switch, too, and go back to hand signals. If you operate a heavy vehicle, disable the backup beeper. If it has air brakes, remove the low air pressure buzzer. And disable the ABS and stability systems, too.

Let's move into the house and remove the smoke alarm batteries. We can cut off the ground pins on all three-wire plugs, and short across all fuses and circuit breakers. We can easily enough disable overtemp safeties on furnaces and low- and high-pressure switches on air conditioners (in the car, too). Of course, all those silly GFCI breakers in the kitchen, bathroom, and basement will have to go. Oh - I almost forgot the Carbon Monoxide detector if your heating system uses any sort of flame. There is also a pressure relief on your hot water heater. Don't forget to block it.

Anyone care to add to the list?
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