Y'know the GOp is looking for a candidate to field in 2016 who is the opposite of what Romney was.
You know who the front runner is ... Romney.  

Cool.
Srinath.

I'm Independent, but lean toward Starlifter on many of these issues.   I would suggest OB consider him as the "Director of Splainin".   I am a bonafide, registered, free thinking Independent and have been for over 30 years.   That means two things... A) I think, and B) I don't vote party (but alas, I repeat myself).  I vote for people and issues that make sense for the people (remember us?), regardless of party affiliations.   I believe that many of our problems could be resolved, and solved quickly, if both parties would quit bickering over their egotistical BS points, and either work together in earnest, or get THE FORK OUTTA THE WAY!   In particular, however, after this last election, the Rebups had better wake up because the old NeoCon policies are just not acceptable anymore.   In that, their evolution is inevitable and automatic; they can choose to rethink who & what they represent, or fizzle into obscurity.

"You tell me what you're going to concede as a liberal instead of the idea conservatives always have to concede ground."

Obama caved in maybe 200 times in his first term trying to accommodate Republican obstructionists. We should concede NOTHING to these anti-American greed mongers in this second term.

Still watching the puppet show,, look behind the curtain.

On the big problem solutions... Do you not think problems could be more easily resolved if the manner were not better orchestrated by congressional members acting like adults? To me, the two parties trying to scratch each others eyes out does not seem to be the most optimal platform for arriving at equitable solutions. However, that is only my opinion and I'm willing to hear arguments? I can only offer that I have been married for 35 years to the same woman. Trust me, in that time I've learned a few things about negotiation and compromise.


A fair answer 360 and I apologize for being gruff. My patience is thin these days.

Personally, two parties trying to scratch eyes out IS the optimal platform. Change should be brutal, slow, painful, full blood and tears. Otherwise, fads and false arguments push us to far to one side or the other. I need the awful liberals as much as they need me, the awful conservative.

I’ll restate my question; why couldn’t the dems give on forcing a religious institution that’s been around 10 times longer than this nation in forcing them to pay for birth control and abortion pills, something that’s  abhorrent to their point of view?

Trick question... makers and takers...
Rep's would see Romoney as a maker,... and the people that worked in the companies he bought and sold,.. as takers...
.. but, what did Romoney ever make?... He just used used his and others money to to buy and sell the work of others...
Dem's would see the makers as those who work hard and create something a the end of the day... and the takers, as those that buy and sell the value of the labour of others...

The question is,.. who are the makers?... and who are the takers?...


Good question and here’s the answer. ‘Makers’ make things because of the drive provided by ‘takers’ and not the other way around. It’s far harder and more rare to be a  ‘maker’ than a ‘taker’. There are 30 NFL starting quarterbacks and they make a fortune each. (they also make a fortune for their owners as well as help pay the salary of thousands of others). There are a few more people in the world capable of doing that job, but not many. Remove the takers from the system, punish the takers, malign the takers and it’s the makers who suffer.

Tomorrow I will be at one of the largest beef slaughter-processing plants in the country. 3000 workers, up to 7200 cattle processed per day. I’ve never met the plant manager, but keeping that process flowing is a skill very few people have. If the man makes a million dollars a year, it’s worth it. You couldn’t do his job, I couldn’t do his job, very very few people could. But, he could walk out on the line and do any of those jobs in a short period of time, but that equation doesn’t work the other way. My boss could do my job (he did), but I could not do his job. Maybe someday I will learn what I need to and if I do, I’ll move up and earn more. If time proves out I cannot do what he does, I miss out. I do not think that’s unfair; do you?

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/18/12 at 07:03:21:


Wrong ... wrong ? under JOG and the toothless Obama administration diluted by the repugs this was the norm ... yea they caught that Rajarathnam, but all the rest of the crooks walked away ...

Cool.
Srinath.