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Reply #30 - 11/16/12 at 08:19:37

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/16/12 at 07:05:28:

If weight is no matter, or if you could slip another piece of pipe inside to fill most of the void, then drill a hole on each end & pump it full of silicone.

Hi jus,

Actually, there is circuitry inside the pipe that I'd like to retain access to...

FYI, I'll be posting a link to my writeup as soon as I get this thing finished.

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #31 - 11/16/12 at 08:31:47 Digger wrote on 11/16/12 at 08:17:12: I'm thinkin' about going with Marine Goop, thinned with some toluene (if I can find it). I've already got the Marine Goop..... Home depot, paint section
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Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How?
Reply #32 - 11/16/12 at 14:33:39

verslagen1 wrote on 11/16/12 at 08:31:47:

Digger wrote on 11/16/12 at 08:17:12:

I'm thinkin' about going with Marine Goop, thinned with some toluene (if I can find it). I've already got the Marine Goop.....

Home depot, paint section

Neither my local Home Depot or Lowe's carried toluene. Ace had it, but only in a gallon size. Luckily, there is a small, independent paint store in town (Dale's - I like that place) that sold it by the quart......

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #33 - 11/16/12 at 15:44:17 Haven't specifically looked for it either in a while. my brother used it, I didn't.
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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #34 - 11/17/12 at 04:01:42 Hey Digger what are you actually going to use it for? As to the UV resistant part are you going to leave it raw PVC, if not you can use plastic paint and eliminate one of the needs off the list which will give you more options as long as the glue/adhesive is paintable.
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Reply #35 - 11/17/12 at 18:35:18

ToesNose wrote on 11/17/12 at 04:01:42:

Hey Digger what are you actually going to use it for? As to the UV resistant part are you going to leave it raw PVC, if not you can use plastic paint and eliminate one of the needs off the list which will give you more options as long as the glue/adhesive is paintable.

Toes,

The section of pipe will house two LEDs that will serve as a charging monitor.

You're right, I could paint the pipe, but that would involve work on my part...... Wink

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #36 - 11/17/12 at 18:44:35 What about mounting each LED in a short piece of pipe & then put that pipe into the side of your larger one? OHHH,,, dang,, that mite be more effort than paint,,
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Digger Serious Thumper 2005 No Login Offline Ya gotta be tough to ride singles! Posts: 1604 Colorado Springs, CO Gender:	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #37 - 11/17/12 at 18:59:29 justin_o_guy2 wrote on 11/17/12 at 18:44:35: What about mounting each LED in a short piece of pipe & then put that pipe into the side of your larger one? OHHH,,, dang,, that mite be more effort than paint,, Yeah....sounds too much like work....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #38 - 11/17/12 at 19:07:18 Well,, we can't have That! Ohh,,, Horrors!
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ToesNose Serious Thumper Offline Pardon me, do you have Hot Sauce? Posts: 1993 Mooresville, NC Gender:	Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How? Reply #39 - 11/18/12 at 04:36:55 Ohh Digger just stoll into Lowes, Home Depot or Ace and grab a rattle can of Plastic Spray it's only minimum effort cleaning the PVC and taping off the actual LED bulbs
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Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How?
Reply #40 - 11/18/12 at 20:22:12

ToesNose wrote on 11/18/12 at 04:36:55:

Ohh Digger just stoll into Lowes, Home Depot or Ace and grab a rattle can of Plastic Spray it's only minimum effort cleaning the PVC and taping off the actual LED bulbs Roll Eyes

I may have solved the problem by using a UV resistant glue.....more to follow when I post the fix.

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Reply #41 - 11/19/12 at 11:55:51

hi guys sorry to piss on your fire, but, i an electronic engineer among other things and 1. not much will stick to PVC tube as its oil based, and 2,,,,all you need is a small rubber grommet in the hole and push the LED into it from inside, the holes MUST be a tolerace fit, we do this on unmanned target drones for the military and they do not leak even when dropped into the sea !!!
Hope this saves a lot of messing around

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Reply #42 - 11/19/12 at 18:39:24

Dear Bobber,, Thats great news. However, Digger dont wanna go diggin for no dang grommets,, thats too much work. PLease get his address from someone who knows him & send him a few, Make sure to not use too much tape on the box. Dont wanna tire him out just gettin in it.

You Could PM the guy & see if he feels like typing his address today,,but,,
well,, you know,, probably a bit too much work,, he has to save himself,.he has a spotless garage that requires a daily micron sized dust detection & eradication procedure that is simply exhausting,

Daaang that was FUN!

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Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How?
Reply #43 - 11/19/12 at 19:24:11

Are you trying to seal the LED itself, or are you trying to seal the hole so it won't leak onto the other circuitry? Any moisture on the LED itself won't matter. Why? Because red LEDs drop about 1.7V (forward bias), so any leakage current thru the moisture will likely be insignificant, especially if the LED is current limited to 20ma (via resistor).

If you are trying to prevent moisture into the circuitry inside the PVC pipe, that's another story. One thing I've used in the past is to drill the 5mm (or 3mm) hole, so the LED is a tight fit (no mount hardware), then goober up the backside of the LED with silicon. If the LED is not subject to much vibration (aside from the whole pipe unit), then that will probably work.

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Re: Need To Weatherproof An LED Mount - But How?
Reply #44 - 12/04/12 at 19:29:02

hotrodbobber wrote on 11/19/12 at 11:55:51:

hi guys sorry to piss on your fire, but, i an electronic engineer among other things and 1. not much will stick to PVC tube as its oil based, and 2,,,,all you need is a small rubber grommet in the hole and push the LED into it from inside, the holes MUST be a tolerace fit, we do this on unmanned target drones for the military and they do not leak even when dropped into the sea !!!
Hope this saves a lot of messing around

That grommet idea is a fine one.....I'll keep it in mind if I build another one of these things! Maybe dab a smidge of RTV on the LED before shoving it home......

Thanks!

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