Wow, that was quite a nasty spiel from Webster up thread. He must feel threatened again.

Webster is very judgmental. He loves to feel superior to others and constantly puts down anyone who's views contradict his own. He compares himself to everyone else believing he holds the moral high ground when his posts reflect nothing but greed and self-serving nonsense. Whenever he feels threatened he resorts to nasty name calling.

It's imposable for him to engage in civil discourse if he is confronted with views that do not reflect his own distorted view of reality. For example his views on family planning. How odd that he cares more about a fetus then the children who are born.

Webster is apoplectic about Romney's defeat to an African American person who for the second time has been voted into the white house. If Blacks or poor people have gained something in this society, it must've come at somebody's expense. And to Webster it came at his expense.

I am glad that he did not leave the forum as promised if Obama won (snicker). He is here to serve as amusement (sort of like the king's fool) for the rest of us...as they say down south "bless his little heart".  

1. No impact, no effect? Really, tell that to the property owners who have lost their water wells to fracking, tell that to those same property owners who see traffic going back and forth to well sites increase twenty fold, tell that to those who worry about the billions of gallons of water being wasted to produce natural gas, then most of all tell that to our childrens, children, who's fresh/clean water has dissapeared for our selfish actions... Look at sattelite views of natural gas areas, then tell me it has had NO impact...

I was talking about Anwar. But overall, yes, modern drilling is not the catastrophic disaster you are making it out to be.

2. All conservative look at is shortsighted narrow views, proven by your comments.. Many alternative energy outfits are still very much alive, they have lowered cost of solar, wind and geothermal, and if they had the same resources big oil has they could be producing over 70% of our energy needs by now.. Again all so-called conservatives see are failures and strike political agenda against any energy form that competes with their main contributer, big oil... That same soccer Mom can find a more energy efficient vehicle, and actually make a sacrifice for the future of those seven kids.. Show them how to conserve, valuble lessons..


Retread; I told you I was involved enough in this industry to know the truth. One day oil will be replaced as the dominant energy source. If solar energy was the answer, it would have happened by now. It might, but that day is years away. And answer my questions about motorcycles and cars. Tell everyone on here to show others how to conserve by getting rid of one vehicle.

3. No, we do have a revenue problem! Bushes tax cuts are the main culprit here, they were designed to boost the economy, they provided the opposite effect... Yea your buddy needs to quit playing politics and start looking for tax writeoffs, like MORE employees! Tax rates in the fifties were at 75-90% on the wealthy, and they overcame, in fact the WHOLE nation prospered, people invested in their businesses, instead of pocketing the cash and whining!

No, we do not have a revenue problem. Look at any graph showing spending over the past 50 years and after you see the huge spike, tell me again we have a revenue problem.

4. Your not paying for it, insurance is, and if a archaic religion cannot pull itself into the 21st century, it needs to be yanked into reality!! But they are not being forced into anything anymore... More political recourse by tax exempt religions, who maybe should lose their tax exmpt status..

I am too paying for it. Who do you think is going to pay for the products and services insurance companies are now ordered to provide?

5. The civilized world should assume the role, not one nation. We spend 48 times the rest of the world on our military.. And we sacrifice our youth every twenty years or so to the NEW war.. Need to change from occupying force, to quick reaction force.. We have enough weaponry to destroy the world at a push of a button, not enough, paranoid much?


The civilized world? You mean like the United Nations? Really? Are you joking?...

6. Insurance= Legalized extortion.. National healthcare does work, and has for many years in other industralized nations! Your information is flawed, proven flawed, and fed to you by big insurance and Reagan lovers..

No, it does not. Sorry to disappoint you, but it doesn’t work the way you think.

WebsterMark wrote on 11/10/12 at 15:04:25:


I'm not yelling...

I'm just highlighting quotes and proving them wrong, or misinformed, or in ill faith.

As in that guy who claims fracking ain't so bad... " But overall, yes, modern drilling is not the catastrophic disaster you are making it out to be."

...Really ?



This image relates to the earthquake we suffered in Norther Italy last spring.

The figures relate to the amount, measured in centimeters, by which the ground rose during the quake.
These measurements were made by military satellites who witnessed the event and recorded it because it caused an anomaly in the alignment of various terms of reference.



These are... were buildings built in the late Middle Ages or in the Renaissance. "A few hunderd years ago" as you commented.

They survived centuries of warfare and both German and Allied bombings during WW2... but not corporate fracking...

Shrug this off, then ...

mpescatori wrote on 11/10/12 at 15:39:05:



& what is it theyre so eagerly producing? Isnt most of the fracking thats causing these problems fairly shallow ( In well drilling terms)? Arent most of these wells intended for gas production?

& Yea, Pesci,, theyre Seriously Fracking us over over here too. Ive seen video of people lighting the fumes coming out of their kitchen faucet.

FRom what Ive looked at, its a lot easier to ;link quakes & fracking than storms & global warming.


They are pumping huge volumes of fluids at high pressures. They sat & pumped for a couple of Weeks, & thats a 24 hr/day job, they dont stop.
They built a reservoir & used that to hold water & had 2 10" pipes coming in to keep it full.
Go look up video of faucets being lit, theyre destroying the habitability of the land, driving the people off, away from independence.

Amazing how the industrial accidents line up to satisfy the political ends of the globalists, innitt?

Uh Huhh,, NOw, step back & think for a minute,,Lets just say YOU are a Natural Gas Producer AND, lets just say youre smart enough to follow the retail price of the product you sell,, AND lets just have us a quick look, shall we?


Natural gas costs at the start of the 2012-13 heating season are projected to be lower than at any time in the last 10 years, the Kentucky Public Service Commission said Wednesday.

On average, Kentucky customers can expect to pay about 12 percent less this November than last if they consume 10,000 cubic feet of natural gas. The average total bill for 10,000 cubic feet is projected to be about $85.55.

That is down more than $65 since November 2008 and a decrease of 43 percent over the last four years.



NOW,, HOw many billion dollars would YOU spend to increase the availability of a product that is in such supply NOW that the price is falling & more is in storage than has ever been?


PLease note, BP is one of the Big Producers.

What you are watching here is the destruction of the water supplies for people out in the country, so they will be forced into the more densely populated areas, They are doing it under the banner of Producing a Product we all need & the masses will label the drilling & fracking as "Corporate Greed", when Corporate Greed would Dictate an end to fracking, which would drive the price UP.

Surely youve felt that tiny ;little twinge in the back of your head,,( actually, its more behind my right ear) something here just doesnt QUITE make sense.. its close, it feels real close, but theres that tiny, nagging feeling that somewhere it doesnt all add up..

Producing what is in a surplus is not good for the bottom line, yet, thats  what theyre doing, SO,, there must be some other reason other than profits.

Pine wrote on 11/12/12 at 09:38:07:


Well as long as she didn't pay cash for it ... I'd move ... if 20-30 of the homeowners did that citing to the banks that this is why, that would pit the banks against the energy companies.

Only ones with a lot of equity should be worried about that IMHO ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Pine wrote on 11/12/12 at 13:37:00:


Ooo sheesh, that is bad I am actually thinking of playing the refi game just for this reason.
Cool.
Srinath.