Serowbot wrote on 11/08/12 at 22:24:12:Conservatives keep trying to paint liberals as the half that wants something for nothing...
What we want,.. is value for our money...
Sure,.. tax us... but, don't spend it all on "Star Wars", and electro-magnetic discombobulatars...
We want, good schools,.. health care, safe streets,.. shelter for the homeless,.. help for injured vets and the disabled,.. clean air and water...
That's not asking for free stuff,.. it's asking for value for our dollar...
Our taxes should not disappear into vapour... they should show positive results... making ours, and the lives of others better...
A free government, should be nothing more, than a collective of people, uniting to make life better for all...
The job of our elected representatives,.. is to spend our money wisely, to the best advantage of the citizens...
Not to the best advantage of the government, or the businesses, or even the world,.. but it's citizens...
That said,.. any free government, must be socialist?/communist?... in that it is there to serve the people... and not the aristocracy...
These elected people work for, and serve us... not the other way around..
We aren't sucking at the government's teat... we are demanding services for payment rendered...
That government teat,.. is filled with milk/money that we supplied...
...(did I say actually just say,.. milk money?)...
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Dear Mr. Boat
In answer to your post I would first like to say I really agree with most of it, wholeheartedly, & would suggest you take the time to watch that Ethos video, because it will explain why the Star Wars & electronic discombobulators are being bought.
Now, this whole Democrats do these things & thats Baaad & the Republicans do these things & theyre Baaad,,argument. Lets just stop & think for one minute, everybody,, Slow DOWN & step Back & THINK.,.
We've all seen one party in control & seen them pass legislation that the other side just SCREAMED was the worst legislation that could be passed. & we've seen the power swing back the other way, & now, the party that was Screaming Bloody MUrder is now in power..
When was the last time they went back & erased that Ohh So Bad legislation? Dont give me They dont have time. They have time to investigate Baseball, for cryin out loud..
The problem, IMO, isnt Bubs or Dems, its the unelected influences in DC who are literally Writing the legislation for the Electeds to pass. The American people are being Used as an engine to drive corporate profits & have been for decades. Until you guys get what the fed is, how it works, what it does To us, we will never win this,
As for having good schools, thats not gonna happen while control over those schools is other than 100% Local.
Our "school System" was born in a Prussian state. Its goal is to teach enough to have enough worker bees well educated enough to push the buttons & swing the levers of industry. If you believe the goal is to create Chiefs instead of Indians, youre blinded by your hopefulness that man is kind & wants good things for others. Spend time listening to Charlotte Izerbyt talking about school. John Taylor Gatto has a lot to say about it, as a 30 year, award winning teacher. Tho, listening to him is painful, he t a l k s r e a l s l oo www..
In the 50 years prior to the Great Depression ( Which was Created BY the Banks, so they could gain control over valuable things during economic hard times & get them for almost nothing) Americans had no income taxes prior to 1913, the GDP was growing at a grand clip, Americans were prosperous, Unemployment was low, homelessness was very low. Communities helped their own downtrodden, it wasnt an industry, the $$$ was spent ON the needy, not on offices for the people who sent the needy that check,People had $$$ for charitable needs, charity cases were known by their neighbors, so, if Jacks back wasnt really bad, he would be told to get a job, cuz the $$ isnt comin,,if Suzy needs help raising her kids because Bobby packed up & left, People will help out, get some day care happnin while she goes to work, but send her a check so she can stay home & raise kids & have a couple more so the check gets bigger? Uhh ,, NO,, Thats stewpid..
Is there anyone here who Did Not , say, back in the 70's or so, when you first heard about pregnant women from Mexico coming here & having a baby & then, they stayed, did anyone here Not think that sounded stupid? Someone crosses a border into a country illegally, drops a baby on the ground & says " The baby is a citizen of your country. Now you must offer me a check every month while I raise the baby",.. Wanna try that in Mexico? YOull be very sad with how it works. How about Italy? Australia? Show me another place where something That Stupid is done,,
UNtil people see behind the curtain & understand whats really happening, these things cant get fixed, its not happening. & The division & squabbling is all part of it, keep them too busy with the wrinkles for them to see the whole cloth,
I know, I didnt address your whole post, IM sorry, It would just take too long.