A few weeks ago I started to go on a ride without checking the fuel level. I got a little down the road and the bike killed on me. Started up again and died at a stop sign, sounded like it was starving for fuel so I shook the bike, didnt hear and sloshing around popped the cap off and its bone dry. Well, put some more gas in it from a gas can I had, It started up but then dies after about a 45 sec idle. I then took the carb apart and cleaned it, it was filthy, also put an inline fuel filter on it. Started right up again let it idle and it was fine. took it around the block and it rode kind of sluggish pulled into the driveway let it idle then it died. Now im back to my original problem... It almost sounds like to me that its getting to much fuel and flooding.... Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

By the way, when I had the carb apart cleaning it the float looked good as well as the diaphram, every part seems to move freely not getting stuck...

Maybe your petcock- check out the tech section theres a test there you can try.... lots of folks here have problems with the stock petcock & switch to one made for the Raptor. My bike is an 07 with 16,000 miles on it as of yesterday & I've never had any problems with my petcock though.

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I then took the carb apart and cleaned it, it was filthy,
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Describe "filthy"
Just curious

 
Isn't it amazing that Mr. Orange and Wernwilk and now CafeJim all have about the same starting symptoms and they always respond that they have already done everything you suggest (or immediately respond that they have done that, but later on you find that they really did something else that was "just as good" but not what they were supposed to do).

Then after six pages of laboriously dragging them through the steps of trouble shooting, they disappear and a few days later a new name pops up with about the same exact symptoms ....

Which do you think best applies?   (you can vote for multiple items)

There sure are a lot of Really Really screwed up Savages out there
Some folks like to talk about their problems more than turning the wrenches to fix them
Some sympathy is nice
Some attention is nice
Vac petcocks sure do suck, so do carbs and charcoal cannisters
People sure are nice around here, let's come back for seconds and thirds
Mebbe we can explain it better this time, or else mebbe they can
Hey, lets start up 2-3 threads on the same bike/issue and make it REALLY REALLY confusing for everybody.
Hey, let's pour all the nasty rusty watery gas out of your gas tank and change out your fuel filter with a brand new unclogged one after flushing everything out good with fresh gasoline, except this time do it the very first thing instead of the very last thing after 6 pages of chattering on about it.
Hey, you could invent some new symptoms for a brand new problem .....

Be aware our list is haunted by the ghost of a carb problem troll who cannot ever rest until his rusted hulk of a Savage can go 90 mph (which mine can't even do on a good day)

Realize it is Halloween, and "trick or treat" can happen even to the best of us .....

Oldfeller - I don't know how many members/visitors of this site share in your brand of humor - but I do !    keep em coming    maybe the names were changed to protect the innocent(or at least the chuckleheads)    don't like charcoal filters ? (what about Miller Genuine Draft ?)   Colonel Mustard ?   I thought it was Mr. Green(or was it Mr. Orange ?)    

Out of idle curiosity, and perhaps too much idleness, I just did a little measuring and calculating. From the carburetor inlet to the bottom of the tank is about four inches. From the carburetor inlet to the top of the tank is about twelve inches. This means the pressure (gravity induced) driving the gasoline into the carburetor varies from four to twelve inches of gasoline, or after some conversions from about 0.1 psi to about 0.3 psi. This low pressure is all there is to force the gasoline through the fuel line and any additional restriction caused by an added in-line fuel filter.

Just thought you'd like to know.

I wonder whether you might have gotten just a little lucky with that filter. All automotive filters are designed for use with fuel pumped systems, not gravity systems. Even the feeblest of fuel pumps will exceed the very low pressures of a gravity system, whether on the suction side or the pressure side.

The fuel filter I tried on my CH80 is clear, pleated paper, just over an inch long and about 1.5 inches diameter not counting the fittings. At a guess that makes it shorter but slightly larger in diameter than yours. The CH80 has a greater pressure head, since its carburetor is mounted quite low. I deliberately bought the filter from a motorcycle shop, hoping it would work OK. It did, too, until the tank got low. I admit to using E-10, but I also have looked in the fuel tank and at least visually it is spotlessly clean. The CH80 does not have a reserve, so it always draws fuel from the bottom of the tank, which leads me to doubt water as a problem. I was able to get to a gas station, filled the tank, and fuel flowed again. Since the fuel filter was the last thing I had added, I removed it, and the scooter then ran out its next tank as usual.

darn lol. I'm tryin to help someone who's looking for help for a problem that doesn't exist? I thought the plastic float sounded a bit like a fake- but I didn't have the balz to say it on that post