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Reply #15 - 10/23/12 at 04:58:40
 

No sense debating nonsense


you're not debating. you made statements, i challenged, you changed subject, ran away and are desperatly trying to come up with some saying that you think scores points or something. Whatever. Point is, according to you, your president let 4 americans die because he wouldn't pay for security. So,  provide evidence to the contrary.
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Reply #16 - 10/23/12 at 05:03:22
 
I believe that had McCain won, we would be in WURSER shape.,.

that's a bit hard to believe, but not beyond the pale. Real healthcare reform that seperates healthcare from being an employer provided benefit might have started instead of obamacare which in the long run is our only way out of the healthcare mess. But this massive spending spree we're on might still have been the same. Senators don't make very good Presidents. So, i'll give you that as a possibility.
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Reply #17 - 10/24/12 at 04:33:51
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/22/12 at 11:18:47:
I’ve been away for a long time from this site, but I’ve popped in as a visitor from time to time to chuckle at the post from the Obama circle jerk group. Since my member-name hasn’t been deleted I thought I’d post that I noticed I don’t see anything about Hopey getting our ambassador killed in Benghazi.

Sounds like that should be the perfect topic for half you guys who judge everything under the umbrella of who served and who didn’t. Seems like a president who was toking on weed instead of putting on the uniform would be ripe pickings.  I mean come on, we’ve got post about CNN, voting machines, some completely idiotic post about food stamps being good for the economy and on and on.

So what gives fellas? You cool with Hopey flying off to a Vegas fund raiser and a Jay Z get together while the poor guy’s body wasn’t even cold yet?



You mean like Mitt dodging the draft by running off to france ?

And good for you repug's after cutting funding to several state department requests ... then this happens and you blame the guy in charge ... More of the "drain the oil" and blame the driver when the motor blows up double speak from the repugs.
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Reply #18 - 10/24/12 at 04:43:31
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/22/12 at 17:46:16:
have you ever answered a direct question in your life?

again...

two points to this and I'd really want to get a straight answer from you....

1) are you suggesting obama didn't respond to security request because he didn't have the funds?

2) obama has borrowed and spent money like a drunken sailor. Are you saying he considered the options but couldn’t bring himself to increase the debt?



Obama may or may not have done more for security if he had the approval from congress. However, sadly we dont know, the cuts were made.

Obama has not borrowed or spent anything in the discretionary non defence arena. People get older, and start collecting retirements - aka - we need to pay them, we agreed to, people get hurt in wars - and we have to treat and pay them, we agreed to as well as sent them to war under false pretenses. We have to. We have to pay food stamps to people we have pulled into the program - Bushies did that, however we are obligated to pay that. Again we agreed to.

So expenses go up. Nothing we can do about that, unless we want to be called liars .. .which I know will not affect Mitt 1 bit, however we do like a president who follows the laws and commitments made by the govt.

So this was a expense that had to be approved by the repugs, and did not, and so didn't get done. So people got killed. Unfortunate, but pay up or shut up Repugs.

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Reply #19 - 10/24/12 at 05:15:13
 
So again, are you suggesting he let people die because he didn't want to spend money? (what is it with you and Star that you won’t answer questions directly ? Your knee jerk response is to say ‘yea, but look at what the other guy did….. Fine, point out what the other guy did, but answer the question first.)

Obama knew fairly quickly what was going on (or should have known, others in the WH did), but didn't respond. The attack lasted 7 hours. When your ambassador says it's dangerous and needs more security, when everyone else has pulled out except you, when you have no hesitancy in spending millions and millions without a second thought, the idea that funding cuts which were (or were not) put into place are the reasons behind Obama saying no to any request for additional security is not really a viable reason now is it?
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Reply #20 - 10/24/12 at 05:40:47
 
Yea,, cant send Aid to a Hot Spot w/o Congressional Approval,, Thats a LIE, The Pres can send TRoops anywhere, any time, in response to imminent danger, & THEN get Congressional Approval.

BUT,, we havent even done That in Years.. we dont have an approved war anywhere,,theres no declaration of war for anything weve been in since I can even remember.

You guys are LAME,,

It must just SUCK knowing, deep down, how absolutely, completely & totally WRONG you are,& how absolutely, completely, 100% screwed UP this act was by your Sainted President.,He CHOSE to not respond to a plea for help, multiple times, from a HOT SPOT..

Now, ya gotta ask yerself WHY he chose to allow those people to sit there w/o enough security,

YOu can BET if it was because the Bubs wouldnt hand over the $$$, the MOMENT it went down, he woulda been on the TV, telling us all about How He was wanting to send in security, but the Bubs wouldnt let him,, But thats not what happened, is it?

Noooo,, what happened was, we got Lies,,lies that would cover HIS lame ass,, &, he wouldnt have NEEDED to cover his as with lame lies IF he had the Bubs to blame it on,, SOOO, YOu Lame excuse makers, wake UP,, YOur excuse isnt even LOGICAL,
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Reply #21 - 10/24/12 at 05:51:05
 
WebsterMark wrote on 10/24/12 at 05:15:13:
So again, are you suggesting he let people die because he didn't want to spend money? (what is it with you and Star that you won’t answer questions directly ? Your knee jerk response is to say ‘yea, but look at what the other guy did….. Fine, point out what the other guy did, but answer the question first.)

Obama knew fairly quickly what was going on (or should have known, others in the WH did), but didn't respond. The attack lasted 7 hours. When your ambassador says it's dangerous and needs more security, when everyone else has pulled out except you, when you have no hesitancy in spending millions and millions without a second thought, the idea that funding cuts which were (or were not) put into place are the reasons behind Obama saying no to any request for additional security is not really a viable reason now is it?


Hey I dont have to answer anything you're not the boss of me ... your question is foolish ...
Its a cot benefit analysis ... people do it all the time ... and its pointless to blame anyone in retrospect ...
People buy small cars cos they are cheaper and cost less to run ... they get in an accident and get hurt/killed ... you go about blaming them for buying a cheap car ... or the flip side ...

People use this same logic, or lack there o to buy lottery tickets ... then someone wins big ... they interview them on TV and end with ... "you cant win if you dont play"

Sorry numbers are against you ... or for you ... its all numbers ... the $$$ may have been granted by the pugs, but we may have bought a aircraft carrier with it cos china is making noises ... and this could still have happened ...

Numbers webster ... numbers.
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Reply #22 - 10/24/12 at 06:36:47
 
Bull,, IF the Bubs said NO, No $$$  for this,, The pres would be screamin from every media outlet that our people died because the bubs wouldnt spend the $$.

AND, the Commander in Chief Has th authority to respond to Imminent Threats.

Lameness abounds here.
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Reply #23 - 10/24/12 at 08:07:37
 
your question is foolish ...

it's not foolish; puts you in a tough spot perhaps, but not foolish.

so what you are saying is the President of the United States said no to request for security because he didn't have the money? that's complete BS. i don't believe even Obama is that lame.....

no, money had nothing to do with it. the guy spends millions like he's taking a crap or something.

it was something else, far worse.
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Reply #24 - 10/24/12 at 09:42:44
 
I guess I missed something, What was the question you wanted me to answer.
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Reply #25 - 10/24/12 at 11:40:54
 
that wasn't for you JOG.

so what is your theory for why he lied about the video? Like Trump; you were going to release something today.
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Reply #26 - 10/24/12 at 11:43:10
 
I done did it..Mita been in another thread,,
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Reply #27 - 10/24/12 at 17:11:14
 
Yea webster, I think you should apologize for me being such an Idiot, much like the Idiot who said god intends you women to get pregnant when raped, then so it is.

Its numbers ... when your resources are limited, you need to pick what you're gonna fix ... maybe you're so rich you dont have to worry. Last week I had to decide whether I was gonna fix something on my truck or my wife's car ... I opted to do it on my wife's car cos inspection was due ... I got lucky. The truck I got to as well before its steering was all shot to hell ... maybe I'd not have ... or maybe I would have ...

Once again ... numbers fool ...

Maybe he did spend the extra 1/2 bill on that embassy, then the embassy didn't get attacked ... wouldn't you have pounced on his stupidity for spending $$$ for no reason and adding to the debt ... dont even deny it ... you would have. Ergo ... screwed if you do, screwed if you dont.

Make any facetious argument you want Webster, there are more than 2 sides to any of these BS arguments.
Direct enough for you ?
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Reply #28 - 10/24/12 at 17:26:05
 
The pres has the power to send troops wherever,, to handle Imminent Threat, REad the Big C.
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Reply #29 - 10/24/12 at 18:10:26
 
Srinath if you think he didn't respond because he didn't have the money, well then i owe Starlifter an apology....
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