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Reply #15 - 10/15/12 at 09:36:30
 
Tread, where we are going can not be fixed by doing what has been done & there are No POlicy Changes in the works that would change our direction. Its not just US, its the world economy, & we can bicker back & forth on whether it was designed to crash & manipulated into an orchestrated collapse, which I say it was, but what we Cant argue are the clear & obvious facts.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/the-largest-economy-in-the-world-...

& when youre done reading that little bit of cheery news, come back with a smooth one liner explaining why all is well in America.

If any of you have any $$$ to spend, do get some silver,
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Reply #16 - 10/15/12 at 10:17:34
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/14/12 at 16:51:37:
I didnt say it would be replaced.Its simply gonna have less value. Its pretty much the "other side of the coin" when less demand is part of the equation. Get ready for higher prices.



Yes and less value is excellent for all of us who have an income pegged atleast remotely to inflation. Its awful for those who have a stash of it in their mattress.
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is it? Are you Sure? Or is that something weve been taught? How much better off would we ALL have been in a REal Money economy? We will never know.
What would it have been like to have lived in a Free Market economy? We will never know,
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Reply #18 - 10/15/12 at 11:08:16
 
Retread wrote on 10/15/12 at 09:32:57:
Fact of life, everybody lies, everybody eats, everybody farts, and everybody has bad days..


The difference is that I am not in a position to be impeached if I lie.


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Reply #19 - 10/15/12 at 11:27:33
 
If I lie, no one dies.
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Reply #20 - 10/15/12 at 12:26:17
 
"Sorry. I don't support LIARS.
I'd rather vote for the ficus." --Steve


Me too Steve, by God, I'm a votin fer Romney & Ryon cause they NEVER lie like the jigaboo in the 'white house'. Roll Eyes

There was once a fellow named Ryan,
If he opens his mouth he is Lyin'
And he hates common men,
Has less brains than a hen,
And his Bullsh!t the people ain't buyin'.

...and, Mitt Romney being the biggest bagger of them all, wants to start more wars (Iran anyone?) with his neocon bush leftovers and yet he doesn't want to pay his fair share of taxes, or even to show his tax returns.

He make Weasels look good.

Please remember: Republicans have become an angry gaggle of batsh!t crazy fanatics.
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Reply #21 - 10/15/12 at 12:49:07
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/15/12 at 10:32:45:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/GermanyHyperChart.jp...

is it? Are you Sure? Or is that something weve been taught? How much better off would we ALL have been in a REal Money economy? We will never know.
What would it have been like to have lived in a Free Market economy? We will never know,



Good point JOG - that's what happens when you go to a war without paying for it ... Excellent point ...
So now who was it that took the US to war ... ha Bushies ...
OK so was he right wing or left wing ?
OK right wing ... good, and how long ago did he leave ... 3.75 years ...
Geee that dont look like its long enough to back us out of the war we have not paid for ...
I think it may take a few more years ...

I took this guy's bike and rode it 20 mins ... and the motor blew up ... well all the way there the red light was on, I thought it meant I need to ride it harder ... especially as it lost power ...

Then 10 mins later the guy I called showed up ...
As soon as he showed up I asked him is it fixed yet ...
He said no.
He's so stupid ... I dont know what he thinks I am, but if I blew it in 20 mins why cant he fix it in 10 mins. He's so stupid. We need to his ass kicked out of that tow truck.

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Reply #22 - 10/15/12 at 13:26:07
 
You really cant see how both sides have contributed? If there was REall a difference, when one got in power they would repeal laws passed by the other. But they never do, they continue the wrong way..
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Reply #23 - 10/15/12 at 15:50:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/15/12 at 13:26:07:
You really cant see how both sides have contributed? If there was REall a difference, when one got in power they would repeal laws passed by the other. But they never do, they continue the wrong way..



Correct ... so I modify my comment to this ...

The bike blows up.
I call 2 tow trucks.
The 2 of them propose to start the bike and ride it another 20 mins @ full throttle.
I hire one of them.
10 mins after he tries to start it and ride it full throttle ... the other guy says ... that fool is useless. I should start it and ride it full throttle.
Ergo ... 2 morons ...
But the first moron isn't giving $$$ away to the super rich ... and the second moron is.
So I want the first moron to continue to attempt to start the bike and rde it full throttle for 10 more mins. After which he's out ...
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Reply #24 - 10/15/12 at 15:53:18
 
IOW, you know we are screwed, too,,
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Reply #25 - 10/15/12 at 16:04:24
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/15/12 at 15:53:18:
IOW, you know we are screwed, too,,



Correct - we are, and how we are screwed is what makes all the difference.
Screwed with the rich getting much much richer = Romney plan.
Screwed with the rich getting much richer = Obama plan.

I prefer the latter.

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Reply #26 - 10/15/12 at 17:26:32
 
Too bad Ron Paul i8snt an option
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Reply #27 - 10/15/12 at 18:27:55
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/15/12 at 13:26:07:
You really cant see how both sides have contributed? If there was REall a difference, when one got in power they would repeal laws passed by the other. But they never do, they continue the wrong way..


That's why I keep saying we need to end this duopoloy.
Both sides have yielded nothing and yet people are so transfixed on one or the other.


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Reply #28 - 10/15/12 at 20:00:20
 
When I hear someone say, regarding DC, "How stupid do they think we are", I have a very hard time Not Laughing in their face. The dumb masses have Proven how stupid they are, Over & Over, by continuing to behave as IF there is a solution to the problem to be found by working WITHIN the system.
If voting COULD affect change, they would have outlawed it long ago.
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Reply #29 - 10/16/12 at 16:33:56
 
In 1914, before World War I, a loaf of bread in Germany cost the equivalent of 13 cents. Two years later it was 19 cents, and by 1919, after the war, that same loaf was 26 cents – doubling the prewar price in five years.

Bad, yes — but not alarming. But one year later a German loaf of bread cost $1.20. By mid-1922, it was $3.50. Just six months later, a loaf cost $700, and by the spring of 1923 it was $1,200. As of September, it cost $2 million to buy a loaf of bread. One month later, it cost $670 million, and the month after that $3 billion. Within weeks it was $100 billion, at which point the German mark completely collapsed.

The whole time the German government kept printing more money, so much so that people burned it in their fireplaces because it was cheaper than wood.

Why didn’t they just stop and try to stabilize the currency?

“When things began to disintegrate, no one dared to take away the punchbowl,” Cashin wrote in his report. ”They feared shutting off the monetary heroin would lead to riots, civil war, and, worst of all, communism. So, realizing that what they were doing was destructive, they kept doing it out of fear that stopping would be even more destructive.”

Cashin advises Americans to keep an eye on M2, a measure of the nation’s money supply, particularly how much money is in circulation. The government reports this number every week. A sudden spike could signal the start of hyperinflation in America.

And once people decide they’d rather spend their money as fast as possible, the so-called “velocity of money” – how quickly money changes hands – takes off. The faster it goes, the higher the rate of inflation.


While those holding our debt dont use it, just sit on it, then, its not inflationary. But, if they cash it in & spend it & it comes Home to circulate in our pool of dollars, each of our dollars will be smaller in comparison, swimming in the pool filled with dollars.
Theres a dance in the gym,,
2 guys standing in the gym in school. 1 girl walks in,, she gets Her pick.

2 guys, standing in the gym, 100 girls walk in. The guys get to pick,,

a loaf of bread, on a shelf, theres only a dollar in the community, that bread goes for a buck.

A loaf of bread on a shelf. Theres 20 BILLION dollars in the community,,

How much is that bread gonna cost? A LOT more than a dollar.
Understanding the mechanism that creates inflation isnt hard, at least not for me, if it just doesnt make sens to anyone here, then please look for explanations from the Mises institute, Lew Rockwell or G. Edward Griffin. If you look to anything from the fed to explain the damage done BY the fed, you mite not get a straight answer.
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