I produced for over 40 years, thank you. "I deal with people who produce, who are responsible for the success of others " And once those others become sucessful because of our production they treat us like yesterday's newspaper! That's it in a nutshell Web. Dont know why you cant understand it or if you just refuse to.

As per hindu mythology -
I googled "how long is a yug" cos I know we are near the end of kali yug from what grandma told me.

Yuga (Devanāgari: युग) in Hindu philosophy is the name of an 'epoch' or 'era' within a cycle of four ages. These are the Satya Yuga, the Treta Yuga, the Dvapara Yuga, and finally the Kali Yuga. According to Hindu cosmology, life in the universe is created, destroyed once every 4.1 to 8.2 billion years,[1][2] which is one full day (day and night) for Brahma. The lifetime of a Brahma himself may be 311 trillion and 40 billion years.[1] The cycles are said to repeat like the seasons, waxing and waning within a greater time-cycle of the creation and destruction of the universe. Like Summer, Spring, Winter and Autumn, each yuga involves stages or gradual changes which the earth and the consciousness of mankind goes through as a whole. A complete yuga cycle from a high Golden Age of enlightenment to a Dark Age and back again is said to be caused by the solar system's motion around another star.[3]

So as per hunduism age of the universe ... so 4.1-8.2 billion years or there abouts.
Cool.
Srinath.

Starlifter wrote on 09/10/12 at 21:06:44:

Splash, Id love to read your explanation of Seperation?Church/State & while youre at it, please show the part of the Constitution youll be quoting.

Yes, this is a challenge,, Ive typed the correct reading of it several times & Im tired of it, so, Ill wait on someone who has no idea what theyre talking about to explain it.

splash07 wrote on 09/16/12 at 18:42:37:




I have simply been taught from the time I could understand that we have a government that operates seperate from church.


Yes, I kinda remember all that getting started. I cant pin down what grade I was in when it got to being a big deal.,It was based in "The seperation of church & state" supposedly due to the Constitution saying there is supposed to be a seperation. Its based in a mis reasding & mis application of the Big C, just as the Commerce clause is used to micro manage commerce between states, when its intent was to Keep Commerce Regular, as in, one state cant create roadblocks to imports from another by tariffs, etc.

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Separation of Church and State:
A First Amendment Primer

Separation: Good for Government,
Good for Religion
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The right to freedom of religion is so central to American democracy that it was enshrined in the First Amendment to the Constitution along with other fundamental rights such as freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

     -- The First Amendment
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In order to guarantee an atmosphere of absolute religious liberty, this country's founders also mandated the strict separation of church and state. Largely because of this prohibition against government regulation or endorsement of religion, diverse faiths have flourished and thrived in America since the founding of the republic. Indeed, James Madison, the father of the United States Constitution, once observed that "the [religious] devotion of the people has been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the state."

Americans are still among the most religious people in the world. Yet the government plays almost no role in promoting, endorsing or funding religious institutions or religious beliefs. Free from government control -- and without government assistance -- religious values, literature, traditions and holidays permeate the lives of our citizens and, in their diverse ways, form an integral part of our national culture. By maintaining the wall separating church and state, we can guarantee the continued vitality of religion in American life.

"Religion is for the weak, gullible and uneducated." Drifter

...Yup,  just look around at the world's most fanatically religious countries" (include the United States of America here) with it's rabid hatred of any of any other belief system (read Muslim, atheist, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Jane, agnostic, Gnostic, spiritualism), etc. etc. and you will see that religion is and always has been the greatest perpetrator of hate the world has ever known.