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Reply #15 - 08/29/12 at 13:48:27
 

"Partial birth" abortion, is not a medical term...
So? What difference does that matter? How stupid a point is that?  Open heart surgery is not a ‘medical term’ for a specific procedure, but everyone knows what you mean.  

It is 0.2% of abortions...
How would you know that since abortion records are not submitted for documentation?
[i]It is not known how many other abortionists have adopted the method, but a few have made themselves known. On March 19, 1996, Dr. William Rashbaum of New York City wrote a letter to Congressman Charles Canady (R-Fl.), stating that he has performed 19,000 late-term "procedures," and that he has performed the procedure that HR 1833 would ban "routinely since 1979. This procedure is only performed in cases of later gestational age."[/i]

It is done almost exclusively to save the life or health of the mother,.. or because the fetus is not viable, and would be stillborn, or worse, die horrifically in short order...

BS! You never met or heard anyone speak who was considered valueless  and not worthy of life and the mother was told to abort only to have that person standing next to you years later?

If removing the child from the mother is necessary to save the mother, why not perform a C-Section and deliver the baby alive…..  It’s because the baby needs to be DEAD, that’s why.


It is not birth control...
Yes it is.

It is not a political issue...
Yes it is.

It is a stupid and cruel intrusion on a woman's/family's personal tragedy...

It is stupid and particularly cruel to pull a baby almost completely out of the womb, poke a hole in her head,  suck her brains out and discard her body. That’s a war on women.
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Reply #16 - 08/29/12 at 13:50:16
 
I am! Want to fight about it?

Really Splash? you think this is an acceptable way for a woman to voluntarily terminate her pregnancy for whatever reason she deems fit?
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Reply #17 - 08/29/12 at 13:53:22
 
If Christy was the dad,It should be aborted one Christy is one to many.
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Reply #18 - 08/30/12 at 07:18:57
 
 So Web has a thing against Unions? I wonder if says thank you when he takes his paid vacation days? Or when he gets health insurance? Or sick pay? Or overtime? Or paid over minimum wage?

 When a politician takes away a workers right to organize he has just taken away your rights!
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Reply #19 - 08/30/12 at 07:40:01
 
Retread wrote on 08/30/12 at 07:18:57:
 So Web has a thing against Unions? I wonder if says thank you when he takes his paid vacation days? Or when he gets health insurance? Or sick pay? Or overtime? Or paid over minimum wage?

 When a politician takes away a workers right to organize he has just taken away your rights!  



No he doesn't, he's too busy talking out of both sides of his mouth.

I should say, I dont need unions, I never have and never will, and more importantly no one in my line of work has ever felt the need for one ... this is why, it takes years and years to learn and the position cant be filled by anyone with less qualifications. What happens when there is a bad job for which I am not compensated, I leave ... they replace me, that person will repeat that, after about 3-10 of that the employer will get the message. That does not apply to someone doing straight up labor. You can dig a ditch ... any one can dig a ditch ... if the ditch isn't dug will you suffer,. absolutely ... however you can rip off the guy and when he leaves you can go one to the next guy and so on ... almost indefinietly ... if all the ditch diggers were one collective ... you cant do that and you ahve to treat the ditch digger fairly ... in case you've not realised ... he's a himan being too.

Robber barons dont like unions .. they also liked slavery ... and the rest of us will need it, we also need to stop in inflow of illegals ... that just bends the rules in favor of the very wealthy.

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Reply #20 - 08/30/12 at 08:57:15
 
In case of being careless - WTH, are you stupid, yea here's a hint, you cant be stupid any more, you got a baby inside of you. So Hell NO.

But giving up the baby to be Adopted - I dont like blind adoptions, there are hereditary diseases both the parents and the baby are connected by that, cant have them out of the life of the baby entirely. Also if there is an economic reason why she doesn't want to have the baby there needs to be a safety net to help with that ... obviously that also rubs the right the wrong way, so sorry cant have it both ways GOP.

In spite of the GOP's insistence that they can shut the (W)hole thing down. Shock ... Horror. Yes if it was rape.

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Reply #21 - 08/30/12 at 11:10:10
 
In case of being careless - WTH, are you stupid, yea here's a hint, you cant be stupid any more, you got a baby inside of you. So Hell NO.

But giving up the baby to be Adopted - I dont like blind adoptions, there are hereditary diseases both the parents and the baby are connected by that, cant have them out of the life of the baby entirely. Also if there is an economic reason why she doesn't want to have the baby there needs to be a safety net to help with that ... obviously that also rubs the right the wrong way, so sorry cant have it both ways GOP.



My wife is adopted as are her sister and brother. I have two beautiful, healthy productive children.  If it had been post-1973 instead of the early 1960’s when there was a little shame in this country, you would rather her end up in a trashbag behind a clinic and her and my two beautiful children would never had existed?

This is the awful, pathetic, in-human part of liberals; how easily they establish the value of another person’s life, especially a little baby. That’s why it’s so easy for socialist to morph into large scale killing machines.
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Reply #22 - 08/30/12 at 11:35:55
 
WebsterMark wrote on 08/30/12 at 11:10:10:
My wife is adopted as are her sister and brother. I have two beautiful, healthy productive children.  If it had been post-1973 instead of the early 1960’s when there was a little shame in this country, you would rather her end up in a trashbag behind a clinic and her and my two beautiful children would never had existed?



I am not against adoption, I was agaist blind adoption ... may be the wrong term ... cos I made it up. Its adoption where there are no records and neither the biological parents nor the kids and the new parents can ever find the other - see in case of hereditary diseases etc etc there needs to be a way to transmit that information ... You may catch a problem in a 5yr old that you look for cos the mother has had it diagnosed and catching it sooner is a better outcome.

People who give up their kids for adoption and the ones who take them are really really saints IMHO. I cant imagine being @ either end of that deal.

Anyway I'd like some way of transmitting vital information between the 2 who have been separated. Like my wife's family has bad knees ... Its a caution for her all her life. I would rather she know about it than have issues ... her granmother and mother damaged their knees in their 30's and 40's ... long after she was born. Me and my son have autism ... important info to transmit between generaions IMHO. Enough reason to have a system in place for that I think.

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Reply #23 - 08/30/12 at 13:05:53
 
 Until I can carry a child to term, I cannot tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body. The government has NO business in anybodys reproductive system! PERIOD!

 You want to stop abortion, do it within your own family. Put your girls on birth control, and stop the cross your legs until your married dream.. Tell your kids the truth, it feels good, and the worse sex you ever had was absolutlely wonderful.. Tell them abortion is not a form of birth control, teach them about STD's, remove the mystery from a natural urge, and show them the poor choices some people make in choosing sex partners.

  Then you have to turn them loose, cross your fingers, and pray they make the right decisions in life. Funny how some people would much rather bring a unwanted child into this world to be abused and starved then provide an abortion.. It is a difficult decision, one that should not be a governments, it should be a family's..

   You can get all emotional and blubbery about who has come into this world and what you would do without them, but remember life and death are just two sides of a coin. You can be born to die in a car crash on the way home, or have SIDs, its a coin flip folks, nobody gets out of this world alive... But we can bring needless child abuse, and needless abortions to an end, we start within our own family's..
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Reply #24 - 09/02/12 at 15:09:00
 
Retread wrote on 08/30/12 at 13:05:53:
 Until I can carry a child to term, I cannot tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body. The government has NO business in anybodys reproductive system! PERIOD!



Hey this has been done by republicans. You remember The movie Junior, yes Aaahnold Schwarznegger who is republican. So its their right to meddle in womens reproductive system.
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Reply #25 - 09/04/12 at 00:18:13
 
Until I can carry a child to term, I cannot tell a woman what she can or cannot do with her body.


You cant know the difference between right & wrong untill youve proven you can carry a baby to term? Thats some kinda mental gymnastics there.
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Reply #26 - 09/04/12 at 06:55:42
 
Its not the governments job to legislate morality JOG... That starts at home...
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Reply #27 - 09/04/12 at 12:17:43
 
Retread wrote on 09/04/12 at 06:55:42:
Its not the governments job to legislate morality JOG... That starts at home...


Should the govt have to pay for it ? I'd say no except as assistance to low income and only as contraception, however I think the govt should keep its nose out of it.
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