Retread wrote on 08/25/12 at 09:34:31:

Retread, THANKS for the Welcome Home!  For me, it wasn't until AFTER the 1st Gulf war that a local high school honored all the local Vet's from WWII forward.  I sincerely hope your community is more patriotic.
I don't care how small of a piece of the pie ILLEGALS get!  That money and those services NEED to be directed at American's in need. Please go to the nearest hospital E/R and spend some time, what you'll see are ILLEGALS taking advantage of the system.  They can't be turned away but they pay ZERO!  Please, check with any of the admitting personnel, they will explain the procedures used.  Believe me, EVERYONE else, with or without insurance is paying more than they should in order to make up for these parasites.  After you've left the E/R head to Wally World, those debit cards these illegals are using are Government Issue and get a monthly contribution.  School will be starting again very soon, try stopping by any school in your community, what you'll find, depending on where you live, are children of illegals enrolled, attending class, receiving free breakfasts and lunches, all on the taxpayers back.  How would you like to be a teacher, who isn't bilingual, trying to teach kids who have no interest in learning English?
"Jobs no one else wants"?????  Are you suggesting these parasites in the construction trades are taking jobs no one wants?  How about all the lawn care illegals?  I don't know about you but when I was in Jr Hi and Hi School, I'd mow lawns, pick fruit, and basically do anything I could to earn some spending money so your assertion "jobs no one else wants" doesn't ring true. The unemployment rate for kids 16-25 is over 26% and if you happen to be African-American, the unemployment rate is close to 50%!  The real issue is, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY and need to be deported! The United States of America has very specific rules in place regarding citizenship and/or temporary work permits.  If these people aren't following OUR laws, they need to be deported, period.
As for G.E.'s "nitch".........Do you realize how much money G.E. spends on tax advisor's and CPA's?  Further, the reality is, their earnings OUTSIDE the United States remains off-shore so they don't have to pay tax on those profits.  Do you realize, in the past 2 years, G.E. has closed the remaining light bulb factories in Virginia and moved that core business to China?  Thousand of jobs were lost.  Did you realize G.E. closed 3 manufacturing facilities in Wisconsin, all very high tech positions involved in the CAT SCAN business.  Over 10,000 middle class/ upper middle class jobs lost to China.
The fact every government agency has fraud/corruption is not acceptable!  Precisely the reason we need smaller government!  When someone in the private sector steals from our citizens, they are arrested, go to trial, if found guilty, go to jail and pay restitution.  Why are government employees exempt from the same standard(s)?

tizzyfit wrote on 08/25/12 at 13:02:48:

Retread,
This is totally pointless to continue.  All I can say is, if you honestly believe the drivel your spewing, you live in a different world than what I encounter on a daily basis here in Auburn, WA.
A final thought, all those ILLEGALS you seem to feel are all of your responsibility to support on some basis or another,if your unwilling to demand they be deported,  why don't you and the rest of the liberals adopt them so the rest of us tax payers can devote our energies to the Active duty military personnel, their families and the Vets that need our financial assistance.

Welcome home tizzyfit! Many thanks for your service.

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 08/25/12 at 21:42:52:


 Thanks JOG, I get carried away sometimes..

WebsterMark wrote on 08/25/12 at 06:06:38:


Sorry I dont think everything has got worse - Just for my point of view -
My life has improved tremendously since 08 - not sure if Obama policies had anything to do with it, but I can tell you the much larger safety net of unemployment and the ability to get house payments from the govt if I was unemployed for long was an added bonus I have never used ... well I guess I am paying for it via payroll taxes ... however I have not been unemployed for long periods since 08 and I have not moved either since march 08.
I have never seen $4 gas since 05-06 - sadly that has ruined my bike sales ... $3+ yes, not $4 ... 08's gas spike was bad, and so were the shortages though.

Interest rates on the debt in real terms are negative now, we can run up deficits all year, year over year ... no issues. If the rates go up (not likely in the next decade - there is no other currency waiting to take the place of the USD) - deficits are essentially irrelevant. Dollar designated debt and dropping interest rates ... easy. Obama adding to the debt, makes no difference, he can add @ 10X the rate and it wont matter till the interest rates climb.
Cool.
Srinath.

The history of the US in taking care of its vets is I feel quite poor

...and now you want the US taking over healthcare for everyone?....

What makes you think they won't screw that up as well? In fact, point me to situations from the past where US government bureaucrats took control of a large section of the US economy and made it better than what private industry was doing?

I could name you many things that the government has not screwed up, but your obtuse views cannot wrap itself around the total scope.. Here are a few that have worked for millions of people over many decades, SS, Medicare, the FAA, EPA, Health depts, DOT, and many other government services..

My obtuse views?... okay, lets see:

SS: bankrupt. Started out as supplement for those at the very bottom of the income scale and has morphed into a unsustainable Ponzi scheme. Governement took the funds from SS taxes and spent elsewhere dramatically expanding the size of government. Now when bills come due from SS, they borrow the money and put IOUs into SS fund. Failure
Medicare: expanding rapidly and again, fiscally unattainable. Fraud and abuse abound. Failure
FAA: I have no idea. If Reagan hadn’t broken up the union, who knows what would have happened. I’ll call it moderate success but not going to take the time to investigate. However, this is a pretty darn small operation.
EPA: oh good Lord what a screw up this is. Being used by bureaucrats to enforce all kinds of BS. Sorry, but this is one agency I deal with for work and they are Nazis; sticking their nose in everywhere. Tool for environmental wachos.  Complete Failure

Enough; government can never, never compete with private industry or charities for efficiency. They have no motive to.