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rfw2003 Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1108 Yantis, TX	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #45 - 08/23/12 at 17:10:25 That's what it sounded like to me as well Maybe the light is starting to peak out just a little in Billand R.F.
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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #46 - 08/23/12 at 17:18:17

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/23/12 at 16:11:33:

bill67 wrote on 08/23/12 at 13:17:06:

tizzyfit wrote on 08/23/12 at 10:02:51:

Savage_Rob wrote on 08/20/12 at 13:04:22:

I had about the same results with Amsoil though my heat was not quite as intense. It was 108 with a heat index of 112. I'd already put about 300 miles on the oil and then added about 150 that day so it was nowhere needing to be changed based on mileage. However, my oil temp gauge was in the red when I got home I thought I'd go ahead and dump it. It was still in pretty good shape. I have been using either 15W50 or 20W50 so far because I rarely ride in temps low enough to matter for the base viscosity. However, I'm now wondering if the 5W40 Rotella T6 may not be better a better choice because of the weight too, specifically in light of the less-than-optimal circulation in the Savage's innards.

I've been using 5W40 Rotella T6 for the past 2 oil and filter changes on my 06 S40 and can honestly say, so far, no adverse effects over the past 1,800 miles.

If the motor didn't blow up that must be some good oil.

Now, I realize that Billish has a somewhat different syntax from English, but durned if that didn't sound like Bill was saying that Rotella T-6 must be some good oil .....

Anybody translate that any differently?

(With Billish, it is always good to get a second translation if it is anything important.)

I gonna guess that his praise is conditional... "If the motor didn't blow up" then "that must be some good oil"
And since he's already done more mileage than bill has on his bike, he must be impressed. I'll have to read the mileage on my bike. Don't know what oil was in it before I got it, but T6 in it since. And that's over 5,000 miles I think on a mostly stock engine.

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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #47 - 08/23/12 at 18:01:58

Now Bill freely admits he has never changed the Klotz in his Savage and he says that in the over the 7 years it has been in the sump he's put 7,000 and some change miles on the bike. And he's never adjusted the valves or done any other maintenance -- the oil takes care of it all.

So I guess "not blowing up the engine" really IS the Billish standard of excellence and any oil that doesn't go kablooie on you "must be good oil".

I wonder, does Bill think we are cheating on him when we swap out oil filters and put in new oil? Does he think it is unethical of us to use feeler gages to adjust the valves and for us to use digital calipers to tune up the ~~starter solenoid~~ decomp actuation point?

In his world, you personally don't have to do these things -- that is your oil's job to take care of those sorts of things.

All you have to do is use good oil. Roll Eyes

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #48 - 08/23/12 at 18:37:10 Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/23/12 at 18:01:58: Now Bill freely admits he has never changed the Klotz in his Savage and he says that in the over the 7 years it has been in the sump he's put 7,000 I don't think his driveway is that long.
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Charon Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1811 Harvard, NE Gender:	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #49 - 08/23/12 at 18:50:00 I wasn't completely sure whether Bill was (conditionally) admitting Rotella T6 to be good oil, or whether he was referring to the 15W-50 or 20W-50 oil used by SavageRob, who was considering changing to T6. I gotta admit it SEEMED like he might be condoning T6. But T6 still doesn't have a picture of a motorcycle on the jug.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #50 - 08/23/12 at 20:43:23 So, the most accurate translation is "confused" yet again. There is no consensus on Bill, except that he is confused on his communications thang yet again. At least he is consistent in his confusion ....
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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #51 - 08/23/12 at 21:10:19

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/23/12 at 20:43:23:

So, the most accurate translation is "confused" yet again.

There is no consensus on Bill, except that he is confused on his communications thang yet again.

At least he is consistent in his confusion ....

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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #52 - 08/24/12 at 03:38:14 I think its funny when some one put in a certain oil and had no problems,Theres over a 100 difference oil you could put in and have no problem.Its like saying I put in Mobil gas in my car yesterday and so for no problems.I rode to Wal Mart yesterday no problems with the tires must be good tires.Now do you guys get it.
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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #53 - 08/24/12 at 17:12:33

What's your take on that one?

I get the gist being he's gotten oiled up 100 different times with no problem, that he's had gas inside his car while rolling (and that's a good thing? Tongue

) and his tires are good tires because they carry him to Walmart.

Huh

I think I'm going to take down my Billish Translator shingle and just go out and abuse my own oil some while I still can.

Huh

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Cavi Mike Serious Thumper Offline Thumper n00b Posts: 1005 Rochester, NY Gender:	Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result Reply #54 - 08/24/12 at 18:21:23 Excuse me for not wanting to read through 4 pages of small-talk but has the analysis come back and if so, could you put it in the first post?
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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #55 - 08/24/12 at 18:33:06

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/18/12 at 18:58:57:

Then hindsight time -- if you did it again, the 120^o hot day ride from hell, would you rush to drain the T-6 all out again?

Huh

Or would you just trust the robust brunette oil to do its thing, trust it to be able to take whatever a Savage deals out for a lot longer than we will ever leave it in the engine for our longest drain intervals?

(I can't even imagine a 10,000 mile drain interval on a bike, much less 50,000 or 80,000 miles like people do to T-6 all the time in the trucking industry)

Big difference with liquid cooled engines vs air-cooled!

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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #56 - 08/24/12 at 18:34:42

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/24/12 at 17:12:33:

What's your take on that one?

I get the gist being he's gotten oiled up 100 different times with no problem, that he's had gas inside his car while rolling (and that's a good thing? Tongue

) and his tires are good tires because they carry him to Walmart.

Huh

I think I'm going to take down my Billish Translator shingle and just go out and abuse my own oil some while I still can.

Huh

Bills comments make perfect sense to me. He must have some Kentuck in his heritage!

For all you neophyte translators out there...and the ones that don't read or speak Billease....

You can drive through a STOP sign every day for years without getting a ticket.....but that don't make it legal! So.........You might use brand X oil for 50,000 miles without blowing up your engine.....but does not make it the best oil for your engine.

Comprendre????

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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #57 - 08/24/12 at 18:38:36

Cavi doesn't want to have to sort the bull from the shite, so here is the Reader's Digest Condensed Version, just for him.

The oil didn't really have to be changed, there was nothing wrong with it.
The abuse wasn't severe enough to hurt the oil (although it tapped out the people side of things pretty durn good).

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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #58 - 08/24/12 at 18:46:36

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/24/12 at 18:38:36:

Cavi doesn't want to have to sort the bull from the shite, so here is the Reader's Digest Condensed Version, just for him.

The oil didn't really have to be changed, there was nothing wrong with it.
The abuse wasn't severe enough to hurt the oil (although it tapped out the people side of things pretty durn good).

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Re: Rotella T6 Oil Abuse Result
Reply #59 - 08/24/12 at 18:51:32

ZAR wrote on 08/24/12 at 18:46:36:

Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/24/12 at 18:38:36:

Cavi doesn't want to have to sort the bull from the shite, so here is the Reader's Digest Condensed Version, just for him.

The oil didn't really have to be changed, there was nothing wrong with it.
The abuse wasn't severe enough to hurt the oil (although it tapped out the people side of things pretty durn good).

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ZAR has won the translation-a-thon is now our official Billish Translator !!! Hip-hip Horah !!

Gee thanks OF! I guess with that and $1.50 I can get a cup of coffee at Micky D's Grin

Oh......just for the record.......I only use RotellaT dino in my scooters(unless an emergency of course,cause any oil's better than no oil!)

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