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Reply #15 - 08/17/12 at 18:53:34
 
Remember when the NRA was a sportsman association, and not a gun rights association?
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Reply #16 - 08/18/12 at 04:43:02
 
SALB wrote on 08/17/12 at 18:53:34:
Remember when the NRA was a sportsman association, and not a gun rights association?


I don't remember that, but perhaps it was before I became a member.
Regardless, when public servants begin to think they are public CONTROLLERS then it becomes necessary to adjust the way a group responds to heavy handed and unconstitutional actions.
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Reply #17 - 08/18/12 at 05:00:05
 
...Or maybe when people think that the only way they can get a message across is to post everything in large off-colored letters.


Bold, 18, Blue - if anyone else was interested.
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Reply #18 - 08/18/12 at 07:57:36
 
Thats the only way you can tell somebody is important.Not by what they say.
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Reply #19 - 08/18/12 at 12:51:40
 
bill67 wrote on 08/18/12 at 07:57:36:
Thats the only way you can tell somebody is important.Not by what they say.



Juuust Wondering?  Is your space key broken Bill?  You seem to do that a lot.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #20 - 08/18/12 at 12:54:36
 
MarcosS40 wrote on 08/18/12 at 12:51:40:
bill67 wrote on 08/18/12 at 07:57:36:
Thats the only way you can tell somebody is important.Not by what they say.



Juuust Wondering?  Is your space key broken Bill?  You seem to do that a lot.    Roll Eyes



Sorry for that last frivolous post. Had a post count of 13 and I had to bump it one. I guess I'm superstitious.  Happy Riding!
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Reply #21 - 08/18/12 at 13:00:57
 
MarcosS40 wrote on 08/18/12 at 12:54:36:
Sorry for that last frivolous post. Had a post count of 13 and I had to bump it one. I guess I'm superstitious.  Happy Riding!


Whew!... glad you cleared that hurdle!... Grin...
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Reply #22 - 08/18/12 at 13:37:26
 
MarcosS40 wrote on 08/18/12 at 12:51:40:
bill67 wrote on 08/18/12 at 07:57:36:
Thats the only way you can tell somebody is important.Not by what they say.



Juuust Wondering?  Is your space key broken Bill?  You seem to do that a lot.    Roll Eyes

Juuust don't know about that key.
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Reply #23 - 08/18/12 at 13:55:10
 
Oh I want a space key so I can get a little spaced while riding.  Wink I don't carry while out riding, there is no place to lock it up. When I do carry it is in my front pants pocket which just would not work while on a bike. I admire the precision in guns, they are put together beautifully which is why I have a small collection of them for target shooting.
 If all he11 breaks loose I don't think guns will really help that much, I'm planning to set up my bee hives along the edge of my property with trip wires to knock them over if attacked. Grin
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Reply #24 - 08/18/12 at 17:22:30
 
I think what originally started this discussion was does anyone on a bike use an ankle holster (another thread). Like I said earlier, I seldom carry. (I do have a permit) But when I do I carry, I use a leather pocket holster in a front pants pocket. There are many of these available for small pistols, check gun shops, or shows or online. I have one for my S@W snubby. You can get some very well made holsters of this design. Not noticable unless someone is really looking for it, and you get used to the weight and feel pretty quick and hardly know it's there.
Other times I carry my little 380 semi-auto in a side belt pouch designed to look like a cell phone holder. (again shop around).  I prefer my revolver, but the 380 is lighter and easier to conceal at times. Personally, I see little if any, practical value in an ankle holster. Too hard to draw from it, etc. (especially, say;  in close quarters).
I almost NEVER, ever carry on a bike, as most times I know where I'm going etc. and if I feel that I'm going to be in a situation (i.e. night time, high crime area, transferring cash, etc.) I'm taking my car, not a bike.
Anyway, that's what I do.
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Reply #25 - 08/18/12 at 17:32:09
 
I don't think I'd want to carry on a bike; I've dropped various things that I thought were secure and I'd really not like to explain that one.
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Reply #26 - 08/18/12 at 19:48:23
 
I always carry.  Always.  (except when wearing something with no pockets or not wearing anything)

I live in a town and neighborhood statistically safer than the average US town,.. but in the past few years, there have been a couple armed break-ins, carjackings, and other assaults within ten miles or so of me.  I realize that is only several incidents in a few years, not all that many, statistically.  The victims would probably rather have been able to do something about it, though.  I refuse to be a victim, and my chances of making that refusal come true go up if I am carrying.

I know the Sheriff's secretary, and she relates they don't report (or keep records) of all the times a gun is used successfully for self-defense, and usually those successes do not involve shooting the gun.

I like what Heinlein said, "An armed society is a polite society."
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Reply #27 - 08/19/12 at 12:40:21
 
2 million defensive uses of a firearm a year. Most don't involve pulling the trigger.

It's 60,000 in Canada.

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Reply #28 - 08/19/12 at 13:50:36
 
dinsdale wrote on 08/19/12 at 12:40:21:
2 million defensive uses of a firearm a year. Most don't involve pulling the trigger.

It's 60,000 in Canada.




That actually seems about on par, since Canada has aprx. 1/10 the population of the U.S. and considerably less densly populated areas.
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Reply #29 - 08/19/12 at 15:48:43
 
[quote author=7942485E63425E482D0 link=1345220488/15#28 date=1345409436]dinsdale wrote on 08/19/12 at 12:40:21:
2 million defensive uses of a firearm a year. Most don't involve pulling the trigger.

It's 60,000 in Canada.

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That actually seems about on par, since Canada has aprx. 1/10 the population of the U.S. and considerably less densly populated areas.

60,000 is 3% 0f 2,000,000, not even close to 10%.
If you factor in that Americans have 2.8 times the number of privately owned guns per capita than Canada, the comparison makes sense.
Note: my statistics are for all fire arms. If you talk about handguns, it's a whole different ball game.
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