Whaaaaat? YOU mean to tell me we arent REALLY Number ONE!?!??

True capitalism creates slavery and robber barons among other equally disastrous side effects.
True socialism creates russia and china. Enuff said. We are going to need a mix of the 2.

An arguable valid point Srinath, thank you. However,  I'd say true capitalism does not create slavery and robber barons. Without customers, capitalist have no one to sell products. Capitalism survives on citizens moving up (and down) throughout the class ranks.

One of the biggies with socialism is it involves government ownership of industry. Again, remember obama’s recent comment about wanting to repeat the GM debacle with ‘every industry’. Now, the word ‘every’ when he used it, is assume to not be taken literally. However, my point is that’s his default position. When in doubt, let government take control and turn over to unelected bureaucrats.  

WebsterMark wrote on 08/12/12 at 06:07:03:


  With our second amendment, anybody wanting the USA would be crazy.. At this point WE spend 48 times the rest of the WORLD on our military.. We are a paranoid bunch... If we brought our troops home to do the job the founding fathers intended them to do (Protect THIS nation), we could cut spending and take care of our own people..

 Not hardly, the recession under Carter was mild compared to what we had in 07-08. Markets took the largest loss since the depression, it was world based, unemployment rose to 9%, above that in many areas, auto industry failing, banks, financial institutions failing, and we were fighting two unpaid wars..

  Reagan had it made compared to that.. Then he pushed the biggest debt this nation had ever seen before that.. The first trickle down failure was under his watch..

  As far as disability claims and welfare rolls, in 32 when the great depression hit we didn't have welfare, disability, or unemployment. If we didn't have those today we would have people dying in the streets.. Is that a perfered fate? My Dad lived through the great depression, it scarred people, he would tell me of huge camps, where people would scrounge and beg to stay alive.. If this nation would not have bailed out banks, auto industry, and spent stimulus, we would have had same situation.. Somehow some people still do not realize HOW close we were!!!  
http://www.bls.gov/opub/ils/summary_10_04/older_workers.htm

 
http://www.cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011

 Hey I'll give you that one, but this is not a fault you can lay completly on Obama.. Education is the key, and people like Ryan would love to cut education funding even further..
 

 
   

The 50 years prior to 1913, when we got the fed & income taxes, people were prosperous, America was blossoming. The bankers HAD to get their hands on it.,



It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.
Henry Ford
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Now, was he stupid? Was he a Conspiracy theorist? Or did he understand something the masses dont? For those who have the guts to come to grips with what is really happening & how we got to where we are, Read or at least Listen to interviews with G Edward Griffin, Creature from Jekyll Island is the best way, IMO, but if ya just dont want to do that, listen to him, dont have to sit & watch hours of video, just let it run & listen while you piddle,
Then listen to Charlotte Izerbyt, no one can dismiss her. She is the real deal.,

The "reality" the masses live in doesnt exist, the things that we have been taught that are simply not true are leading us down the path to slavery to a system that is meant to harvest the fruits of our labors & make the global elite more & more wealthy. Theyve about taken possession of everything that matters & sucked the wealth out of the developed world. What comes next? REad what it says on the Georgia Guidestones,,the elite Tell us what theyre gonna do, IF we are paying attention.
I cant remember who it was, but someone listened when I said the retirement accounts were about to take a big hit, & they took the penalty, got their $$$ out & bought a house. MOnths later, the value dropped.In a big way,,

While I was unable to get out of the house, or drive a car & was finally able to get out of the chair & sit up, I started hunting thru things for clues to satisfy the unanswered questions I had had all my life. I found things that tied up the loose ends, but they revealed something very unsettling. Folks, theres a reason for these military exercises on city streets. The news showing the troops on the streets teaches us to see it as Normal.,YOu dont think they have places on bases for practicing driving their trucks & tanks?
If enough people get up to speed on whats happening, then they wont be able to pull it off,,
Laughing at people who see whats going on only plays into their hands,
get a coupla months food in the house, guns are good.

There is a huge difference between what Reagan inherited and what Obama inherited.

1. Much bigger bubble - heck 80 collapse was not a bubble at all, it was an oil shock that triggered that.
2. We didn't let the bubble deflate - AKA bail out and stimulus, Bush started it and Obama had to hand over the last third of it over, as in after fixing the car and building the road, that last 3rd was like gas $ to see if the car will run again. If he didn't he was screwed ... if he did and the car didn't take off and run like a ferrari to the moon and  beyond, he was screwed ... However Obama was never going to oppose the stimulus, as was none of the primary candidates from either party with the exception of ron paul.
3. Illegals - Atleast 80 million in the US taking up jobs every long term unemployed man, woman and child will gladly take ...
If that doesn't change it will never get better. It didn't matter when we were building 25 X as many houses as we would ever need, but now that we are only building 2 X as many, its awful.

This doesn't even count in the net effects of 2 wars we dont need to be in, and a population that has 1 foot in the grave and the other on banana peels that we have to medicate, treat and pay $$ to. The baby boomers were just past being teenagers under Reagan. They also were entering their $$$$ years where they were buying up everything. Now, they are waiting @ govt offices with a hand out (almost), but the dire  ss, medicare and medicaid predictions are based on that fact.

Cool.
Srinath.

Here NOW! Dont be postin stuff like that! YOure gonna wake up the dumb masses & have them facing the truths about the events over the last 20+ years. Weve watched the slow militarization of the police, swat teams & more & more military grade equipment,Executive orders making it clear that WE are the targets. NDAA, which said WE could be detained,, in another country, it would be called Disappeared, but the dumb mases hadnt the good sense to be able to read the words & Discern the meaning. They laffed at me & posted pics of idiots in tin foil hats,, THEN the courts struck down the part that I said made us targets. IF I was wrong, then why did the courts agree with me in how I was reading it? IDK why the people who have been shown to be wrong continue to argue. IDK why the people who have laffed at me & disagreed with me over & over dont stop & ask themselves Why I continually am demonstrated to be correct in my assessment of the situation will not lay down the teaching theyve had & come to grips with REality. Its much less threatening that than a walk thru life believing in a loving & caring government when nothing could be further from the truth.

If youll notice, the voice of the people has not been heard in DC since at least the 60's. I remember the pasage of enormously unpopular legislation & hearing the "Law Makers" come out & explain that they passed it because of the "Silent Majority" failing to make their wishes known,, It was all a Misunderstanding.. But did they go back & repeal it after Their Bosses told them they had done the job WRONG? NO,, If you had a job & did something & the Boss came & told you that wasnt what he wanted, YOU would have to go back & fix it,, But not OUR employees..

& we have Watched as One Party has the reins & they decide to pass what is a very unpopular law, & the party Not in power makes a Huge show of their opposition, but can not stop it from passing, because they dont have the votes, BUT when the people go & vote next time & the balance of power switches, they never go back & rep[eal what they so strongly stood against, Now DO they?

Thats a clue, people,, thats a HUGE clue.

DHS is buying up Millions, in fact, in the last 2 years, over a BILLION rounds of ammo. Theyve placed barriers between the lanes on the interstates & built up curbing on main roads in ciities, making turning around impossible. Theyre buying up portable guard shacks to put on roads, buletproof, no less.. If youre dumb enough to see the scenery along the road & fail to grasp the destination, youre just DUMB.. we are headed for full on tyranny. Get food in the house, get some silver if you cant buy gold, get some guns & ammo. Or, sit there & say "Now who coulda seen this coming?" when it gets here.,.Ohh,, Water,, better get some O that, too.

Not skered... I've seen 750K aircraft knocked out of the sky with old SKS rifles.. Seen tanks disabled with bamboo stakes... Watched as people crawled out of holes in the ground after being hit with B-52 strikes...